thunderace
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| posted on 10/3/08 at 12:56 PM |
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HID CONVERSION KITS
got the mrs a new astra twintop and want to fit a hid kit but dont know much about them what k to buy 6000k 8000k 55w or 35w and do i need leads kit
to go to my battery.i dont know a lot about the hid kits.
i was thinkig og getting this kit .
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7-6k-Ultra-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-S-FREE-BATTERY-WIRE_W0QQitemZ220209356950QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220209356950
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graememk
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| posted on 10/3/08 at 01:04 PM |
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dont bother
it will fail mot
and the on board computer will throw up light bulb errors
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balidey
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| posted on 10/3/08 at 01:14 PM |
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Passing or failin an MOT will depend upon how clued up the tester is.
But no matter what anyone tells you, these kits are not a legal retro fit. And thats from the DfT
linky
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RazMan
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| posted on 10/3/08 at 01:25 PM |
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Technically they are illegal but as long as you still have a good beam pattern there is a chance it will pass MOT.
H4 versions are not as good as the single beam varieties, and tend to dazzle oncoming drivers.
Common sense is needed before choosing these kits - very good value for money but watch out for dazzle. Fitting is easy peasy (took me less than 30
minutes) but it might confuse any sophisticated bulb failure electrickery.
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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graememk
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| posted on 10/3/08 at 01:52 PM |
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in my vectra to fit one its front bumper off and head lights out...
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Loco_Bill
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| posted on 10/3/08 at 03:35 PM |
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I fitted a very similar kit to my Leon. H7 6000k.
6000K is pretty much the legal limit that you won't be pulled over for. 8000k are too blue/purple.
I've passed MOTs without anyone mentioning the lights and know many other people that have fitted the conversion kits, with no MOT problems.
HIDs make a hell of a difference and one of the most worthwhile changes i've made.
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JohnN
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| posted on 10/3/08 at 03:36 PM |
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Some cars seem to have projector lights, but fitted with halogen bulbs, (some nissans) maybe these are ok to retrofit with these HID kits.
There is a noticeable difference in the amount of stray light between a proper (projector) setup and just these bulbs in traditional reflector
headlights. I have experience of both and the HID aftermarket reflector (even though the entire bulb is shrouded from direct vision) "lights
up" reflective signs miles away, whereas the projector lights don't. Both cars have the same "cut-off" pattern when played to
a distant wall.
For the car fitted with the kit HID, I'm tempted to revert to traditional (but higher wattage) bulbs as the stray light issue may be significant
for on-coming drivers.
The best option is to retrofit the projectors from a different model of the same car, though they are then supposed to be assisted by automatic level
control and washing systems
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 10/3/08 at 04:15 PM |
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can't beat a good set of driving lights 
a small fraction of the price of a HID kit and you can switch them off when their too bright. I like having four as you can set the middle two
straight ahead and the other two pointiing slightly sideways for going round corners.
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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RazMan
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| posted on 10/3/08 at 04:39 PM |
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TBH I reckon my HID conversions are worth several pairs of driving lights  They really do light up the road far better than any other spots I have
ever used - and ideal for BEC's with small alternators as they only draw about 60% of the power.
Cheers,
Raz
When thinking outside the box doesn't work any more, it's time to build a new box
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 10/3/08 at 05:01 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RazMan
TBH I reckon my HID conversions are worth several pairs of driving lights They really do light up the road far better than any other spots I have
ever used - and ideal for BEC's with small alternators as they only draw about 60% of the power.
na I have illegal offroad jobbys from my landy days, death rays 
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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2b_pablo
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| posted on 10/3/08 at 05:23 PM |
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have them in my A4 in the oem projector headlights. scatter is a bit too much on non projectors.
illegal but sure.
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if it aint broke... pull it off and upgrade it!
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ChrisW
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| posted on 10/3/08 at 06:12 PM |
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I have this kit in my XR2...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=150186921806&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=005
TUV and ISO approved kit for H4's. It has a single bulb in each side, with a solenoid that moves it from the main to the dipped position.
I used brand new headlamp units, so the reflectors were spot on, and then took it to a local MOT tester who lined them up properly for me. Although
it's not been through a full MOT test yet, his opinion was that he'd have no problem passing it as the beam pattern was excellent. If
anything, I think the dip could do with being a little higher, but I'm happy to stick on cautious side.
It's a 6000k kit, and looks perfectly white. No blue halos or other nasty 'giveaway' effects - in fact, it just looks like
I've got white bulbs in there if you look at the car, just a bit brighter.
On the road it's absolutely spot on. Dipped beam you don't notice much difference, but on an unlit back road on main beam it's a
huge improvement. I'm tempted to say it's one of the best £100's I've spent on the car, but time will tell whether I regret
that by getting pulled over all the time! It's not happened yet, and I've also had nobody oncoming flash me as people do if you forget to
turn main beams off.
However, the seller I got them from I would hesitate to recommend. Despite saying everything is in stock in the advert, and paying £10 for next day
delivery, it still took 5 days for the kit to arrive. In that time, I could have bought exactly the same kit from China and paid £30 (allowing a
little for customs charges).
However, as per the fact sheet, they are technically illegal and you could be fined (or worse maybe?) for having them. Probably lot less likely to
get noticed on a newish car though - my XR2 is 20 years old so it's pretty obvious to anyone that it shouldn't have HIDs. That's
the risk you take I guess! I've gone as far as I can to make sure I don't cause any problems to other road users, and I'm confident
that will pay off in terms of police attention!
Final thing, whilst you're at it, get (white!) LED sidelights too. This guy is cheap, and delivery takes about a week
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280205136769&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=018
Cheers, Chris
[Edited on 3/10/2008 by ChrisW]
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