NS Dev
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 06:20 PM |
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two stroke diesel
a chap I know in the agricultural contracting line of work has just bought an old american built machine powered by a v6 detroit diesel.
Had a look at it the other day and was amazed to discover the blindingly obvious to anyone familiar with them, they are two stroke, and rev like you
wouldn't believe!!
Why are two stroke diesels out of fashion in mobile stuff???
Call me daft but for me its worth it just for the noise, it sounded AWESOME!!!
here's a clip I found on youtube of a wagon with the same engine.
detroit diesel noise!
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big_wasa
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 06:25 PM |
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bet it doesnt do many mpg 
but does sound awsome 
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adam1985
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 06:27 PM |
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sounds mint but all that black smokes proberbly the reason they dont make em now
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rusty nuts
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 06:29 PM |
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The old Commer TS3 ? used a two stroke diesel IIRC it had two pistons in the same bore?
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MartynV
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 06:37 PM |
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The Commer TS3 two stroke diesel of 60/70's vintage was recently tested along with current trucks and was found to meet many of the current
emissions standards and was very nearly as economic! Not bad for a 1950's design.
In case you are wondering it has 3 cylinders and six pistons (2 in each cylinder), it is piston ported (no valves) and is supercharged!
A similar engine was used in some German Junkers bombers during WW2.
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UncleFista
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 06:42 PM |
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My favourite engine of all time is a 2-stroke diesel, the Napier Deltic , its a bit heavy and
complex for a seven though....
[Edited on 6/6/08 by UncleFista]
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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Mark Allanson
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 06:53 PM |
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We had a pair of them in HMS Bickington, exhausts used to catch fire every morning due to piston slap
If you can keep you head, whilst all others around you are losing theirs, you are not fully aware of the situation
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big_wasa
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 06:55 PM |
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^^^^
Thats what they are 
there was a pair in a scrap yard I was at a few weeks back. They are huge
They looked turbocharged ?
I was going to look them up but forgot all about them.
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UncleFista
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 07:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Mark Allanson
We had a pair of them in HMS Bickington, exhausts used to catch fire every morning due to piston slap
Now that's an engine
TEC anyone ?
(train engined car)
Tony Bond / UncleFista
Love is like a snowmobile, speeding across the frozen tundra.
Which suddenly flips, pinning you underneath.
At night the ice-weasels come...
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NS Dev
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 07:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big_wasa
^^^^
Thats what they are
there was a pair in a scrap yard I was at a few weeks back. They are huge
They looked turbocharged ?
I was going to look them up but forgot all about them.
are you talking bout the detroit?
It was a bit like that with me, I had heard of them, but never considered them, until I saw this one.
Yep, they are either turbo or supercharged, they have to be to scavenge properly, won't really run without a blower of some sort.
I have to say they make so much sense, 4 strokes seem daft.
Look on youtube and you can find a detroit diesel dragster running 8 sec 1/4's.
I will have to go and have another look at the one in the limespreader (that's the agricultural vehicle I was on about)
Its actually not the v6, its twin turbo v8, but no idea how much power.
They actually made a twin turbo v12 2 stroke too..............................
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NS Dev
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 07:21 PM |
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ps the smoke is tweaked pump, not std!!!!
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iank
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 07:32 PM |
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Wonder how long the 0.5 capacity rule for diesels would last if people started using them for hillclimbing
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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ecosse
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 07:47 PM |
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Worked a Terex TS24 motorscraper when I was younger, which ran two detroit V8 motors front and rear, mental noise and power
Can't remember them being overly smokey either, even under load
Cheers
Alex
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smart51
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 07:57 PM |
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How about this for a 2 stroke diesel?
Two Stroke Diesel
more than 50% efficiency, so almost theoretically perfect and 100,000 BHP at 102 RPM.
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big_wasa
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 09:11 PM |
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no the Napier Deltic
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ecosse
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 09:28 PM |
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Found this on you tube, check it out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXIDTW1Cue4
Detroit v8 on a stand
Cheers
Alex
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 09:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ecosse
Detroit v8 on a stand
Made me laugh when the throttle stuck open....run away!
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skodaman
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 10:05 PM |
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Sounds like my old aircooled 350 Yamaha. Smokes about the same too.
Skodaman
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Peteff
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| posted on 6/6/08 at 10:07 PM |
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Old Foden lorries used a two stroke diesel and the one that used to pick up from the steel firm I worked for was really loud, you could hear it coming
down the bypass 5 minutes before it pulled into the yard.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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rf900rush
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| posted on 7/6/08 at 09:12 AM |
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Small compact 200hp all alloy V6 two stroke.
Suzuki DT200 are 2.7l
Sound of a Yam V6 outboard.
Linky
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