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LBMEFM - 22/5/09 at 05:29 AM

Seeing recent thread re speeding, how about this. Stuck behind a Rover for miles I saw my chance and overtook straight into a mobile road side speed camera at 95mph in a 60. Did not stop at the time. Weeks went past no fine, then realised when I replaced my front number plate it had the wrong number, hence I could not be traced. Five months later put car up for sale in a kit car magazine with big colour photo, who was looking to buy a car?, local old bill. They called me asked if my car was still for sale, thinking it was a buyer I said yes. They informed who they were and said they would like to see me. They brought over a picture of me and the wife doing 94mph (seen waving at the camera in the picture) confirmed it was me and the car and gave me a ticket.
You have got to admire the guy, he should have been a detective, by the way he never bought the car.

Mr Whippy - 22/5/09 at 05:52 AM

did he look like this?



Beaten by a better opponent I'm afraid...

what you get?

speedyxjs - 22/5/09 at 06:08 AM

Well thats a interensting one but may i ask why you were doing 95 overtaking a rover? surley 40 would do even in national speed limit

mad4x4 - 22/5/09 at 06:43 AM

Surely you can get off of that one.

1) The plate doesn;t match you car.
2) Five months have passed between Photo & Ticket.



Is there not a rule that the ticket has to be issued withing 6 Weeks and has to clearly identify the Vehicle.

OK down side You said you were waving at the camera. Hope it wasn't a 1 finger salute.

[Edited on 22/505/09 by mad4x4]

Mr Whippy - 22/5/09 at 06:55 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mad4x4

OK down side You said you were waving at the camera. Hope it wasn't a 1 finger salute.



I've read other cases where they have went to great lengths to track speeding offenders down and likewise they too were where folk had gestured to the camera. It might be a bad idea to do so.

Hellfire - 22/5/09 at 07:16 AM

I thought a NIP had to be produced within 6 weeks... otherwise it had to be dropped.

I'd check on that very carefully...

S

iank - 22/5/09 at 07:40 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Hellfire
I thought a NIP had to be produced within 6 weeks... otherwise it had to be dropped.

I'd check on that very carefully...

S


It doesn't have to be dropped especially if they have photographic evidence (or an admission of guilt).

The reasoning behind the normal policy to not prosecute a very late NIP is the courts have thrown out cases where it's been more than 4-6 weeks on the 'can't remember who was driving that day' defence - there's only so long you can be expected to remember what you were doing at a specific time and day.

They do try very hard to investigate if people have been gesturing at the camera or they appear on numerous cameras with hidden plates. (Whether this is a good use of police time is debatable - I'd rather they were responding to burglary/car thefts with a bit more vigour personally)

I think he's lucky not to be having a charge of perverting the course of justice stuck on due to having the wrong plate on the car - that gets a proper record and possible jail time.

oldtimer - 22/5/09 at 07:41 AM

Not sure I'd push too hard on this - I'm sure there are laws about having false number plates, probably made your insurance invalid etc. Not sure if it was necessary to do 94 mph if you were 'stuck' behind in a 60.......

MikeRJ - 22/5/09 at 08:19 AM

quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer
Not sure if it was necessary to do 94 mph if you were 'stuck' behind in a 60.......


I'm not sure either, but that's mainly because I wasn't there to witness the event...

Mr Whippy - 22/5/09 at 09:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by oldtimer
Not sure if it was necessary to do 94 mph if you were 'stuck' behind in a 60.......


I'm not sure either, but that's mainly because I wasn't there to witness the event...


I don't think that’s a valid argument in the eye's of the law

Front Row Joe - 22/5/09 at 11:41 AM

Take it on the chin if I were you. They could have had you for fraudulent use of numberplate (or something similiar). Its not good enough to say you didn't know or it was someone elses fault.

JoelP - 22/5/09 at 12:28 PM

well i think you're very lucky they didnt do you over the number plate!

Humbug - 22/5/09 at 12:42 PM

According to my recent Google, NIPs have to be received with 14 days (not 6 weeks)... However, if you were driving around with a false plate and still had it on when the Bill came round, presumably they could still get you for that, even if not the speeding.

eznfrank - 22/5/09 at 02:37 PM

On a slightly different note I want to know why the plod was checking your car out on his work PC, surely that's abusing his position?

In fact I would have to check but if he had no reason (other than personal) to check then it may well be a DPA offence (ie - a crime!!!)

JoelP - 22/5/09 at 06:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by eznfrank
On a slightly different note I want to know why the plod was checking your car out on his work PC, surely that's abusing his position?

In fact I would have to check but if he had no reason (other than personal) to check then it may well be a DPA offence (ie - a crime!!!)


The cop would just claim he was investigating the unsolved alleged speeding offense, checking kits online.

Ninehigh - 23/5/09 at 12:57 AM

He could have been doing some random Autotrader searching and spotted your car and thought "hang on that looks familiar" and checked it out when he got back to the office...