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Secret driver coalition. Shh dont tell the police!!
bi22le - 21/4/10 at 06:37 PM

This happened a few weeks ago and I have been meaning to put up a post. This is not first time it has happened and I have even done it myself!

I was driving in Bedford area and I had a guy in a large car coming towards me. He was flashing his lights and waving like a mad man. Obviously I slowed down as I wondered what he was up to. As I went round a sweeping corner further up the road I could see a police man speed gunning me! As I slowed down everybody behind me did so Mr Plod earned no money from the next ten cars or so.

So I would like to thank who ever you are for saving me £60 and 3 points. Has anybody done or seen stuff like this before?

A thing that I do is to say thanks when night driving is I DONT flash my lights but dip them to side light and back on. Saves me burning out the back of the persons eyes that has just stopped to let me through. I have not had anybody do that back to me yet. Anyone else do this?

Finally: DONT BUY PETROL FROM BP SHELL TEXICO OR ANY OTHER PETROL COMPANY. USING SUPER MARKETS ONLY WILL DROP DOWN THE PRICE. Pass it on so everybody does it. I did it to day, I saved 2p per litre and got Necter points!



[Edited on 21/4/10 by bi22le]


speedyxjs - 21/4/10 at 06:42 PM

I always get that when im out on a round. Saved me a few points too!

As for the petrol thing, how would that drop the price of fuel? The fuel all comes from the same place, its all just got different additives in it so all you are doing is using crappier fuel and giving the supermarkets extra money!


fesycresy - 21/4/10 at 06:43 PM

Flashing lights for a speed van / camera?

It's common practice


jacko - 21/4/10 at 06:46 PM



Shell is cheaper then Morrison's near me


eddie99 - 21/4/10 at 06:49 PM

I always flash but dont often get warned before a copper but i did the other day and was also very thankful. Saw a post not to long ago about that petrol thing and therefore i only buy from supermarkets. Doubt it will work but oh well, anything worth a go at its current price...


bi22le - 21/4/10 at 06:50 PM

Ah yeah the theory behind the petrol thing. I read it on here some where.

If you only buy from certain places the others will drop the price to compete. The main petrol stations dont have as much overheads as super markets and get the fuel at a cheaper rate (because its their product) and price their fuel to the supermarkets to maximise profit. Due to this large mark up in price they have more to play with. If they are not selling they will drop the price to bring people back. People are just too lazy to look at the pennys differnce so they just creap up and up. The news was saying that 'In some places the diesel costs are upto £1.20'

Thats was a few weeks ago. Now im lucky to even see it at that!

It may work, it may not. I think its worth a punt and its a better idea than not buying fuel at all!

I also understand that the tax is a massive part but nothing will change that!


vinny1275 - 21/4/10 at 07:10 PM

I get flashed sometimes when there are speed traps about - in France, where the rozzers set up speed traps on the motorways, the locals will flash each other a couple of Ks down the road! It is illegal to own a radar detector over there tho...


blakep82 - 21/4/10 at 07:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fesycresy
Flashing lights for a speed van / camera?

It's common practice


er, yep. been around since the speed gun was invented


roadrunner - 21/4/10 at 07:41 PM

I dip my lights instead of a full beam flash.
I'm trying to teach the hole country how to do it one car at a time.


SteveWalker - 21/4/10 at 08:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by vinny1275
I get flashed sometimes when there are speed traps about - in France, where the rozzers set up speed traps on the motorways, the locals will flash each other a couple of Ks down the road! It is illegal to own a radar detector over there tho...




I think satnavs with camera locations are still legal there though.


eznfrank - 21/4/10 at 08:13 PM

I think it was discussed on here previously but there was supposedly someone prosecuted for warning other motorists in this manner - probably an old wives tale though?


scootz - 21/4/10 at 08:13 PM

Nope... it has happened!


coozer - 21/4/10 at 08:14 PM

How about just driving under the speed limit?

And, don't forget supermarket petrol is imported in ships whereas oem petrol is home refined and of a better quality.

Marching on Downing Street is the only way I can think of making a stand. everyone, for weeks on end, there's plenty peeps affected to keep it up for long enough time to embarrass the government.

Is that bloke still outside Westminster Palace with his megaphone tainting them about Iraq??


Simon - 21/4/10 at 08:35 PM

At the end of the day, whichever bunch of lying thieves gets in next month, a big debt still needs paying off. If (like me) you object to the price of fuel, use less.

The alternative is higher basic rate taxes or increased vat, neither of which is as easy to avoid.

Of course, getting rid of some civil servants might help

ATB

Simon


mad4x4 - 21/4/10 at 08:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
Ah yeah the theory behind the petrol thing. I read it on here some where.

If you only buy from certain places the others will drop the price to compete. The main petrol stations dont have as much overheads as super markets and get the fuel at a cheaper rate (because its their product) and price their fuel to the supermarkets to maximise profit. Due to this large mark up in price they have more to play with. If they are not selling they will drop the price to bring people back. People are just too lazy to look at the pennys differnce so they just creap up and up. The news was saying that 'In some places the diesel costs are upto £1.20'

Thats was a few weeks ago. Now im lucky to even see it at that!

It may work, it may not. I think its worth a punt and its a better idea than not buying fuel at all!

I also understand that the tax is a massive part but nothing will change that!


My local Petrol Station is 123.9 for Diesel and 122.9 for unlead


David Jenkins - 21/4/10 at 09:18 PM

IIRC, it's up to a £1000 fine for warning other motorists, if they take a fancy to prosecuting you.

I was coming home from the station one evening when I ended up behind a grandad in his Micra - trilby, the works - doing precisely 2 mph below the speed limit. As I was busy grumbling, we went around a corner to see a policeman with his hair-dryer at the ready. I felt a lot more benevolent to the old driver in front of me after that!

Oh - and I always do the 'headlights off' thank you when going down the narrow lanes.

[Edited on 21/4/10 by David Jenkins]


Dusty - 21/4/10 at 09:34 PM

quote:

s that bloke still outside Westminster Palace with his megaphone tainting them about Iraq?

Yes. Brian Haw. Peace campaigner. Gets roughed up by the police when they get the opportunity but he still protests. He held an Easter picnic on the grass outside Westminster this year.
To quote Winston Churchill
"If you will not fight for the right,when you can easily win without bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not so costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance for survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no chance of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."
OK that was about freedom not petrol but I feel better getting it off my chest!


dhutch - 21/4/10 at 10:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by bi22le Has anybody done or seen stuff like this before?

Yep, i always flash on coming cars if i've passed a speed trap. Every little helps.


dhutch - 21/4/10 at 10:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by bi22leThe main petrol stations dont have as much overheads as super markets and get the fuel at a cheaper rate (because its their product) and price their fuel to the supermarkets to maximise profit.

The problem there is, the s.markets usually price there fuel with a very small profit margin, some times even as a lost leader, in order to get people to call in and use there store.


Daniel


MikeRJ - 21/4/10 at 10:42 PM

quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
A thing that I do is to say thanks when night driving is I DONT flash my lights but dip them to side light and back on. Saves me burning out the back of the persons eyes that has just stopped to let me through. I have not had anybody do that back to me yet. Anyone else do this?


I always do this. Especially at night I think it's a bit inconsiderate to flash main beam and dazzle people.


splitrivet - 21/4/10 at 11:15 PM

Everybody always used to do it, not so much these days I find, in France its the norm.
Tells you a lot about our society Brits dont give a monkeys about their fellow citizens the froggies look out for one another.
Cheers,
Bob

[Edited on 21/4/10 by splitrivet]


Vindi_andy - 22/4/10 at 12:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
A thing that I do is to say thanks when night driving is I DONT flash my lights but dip them to side light and back on. Saves me burning out the back of the persons eyes that has just stopped to let me through. I have not had anybody do that back to me yet. Anyone else do this?


I always do this. Especially at night I think it's a bit inconsiderate to flash main beam and dazzle people.


Likewise. I always do the dip to side then back


JoelP - 23/4/10 at 07:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by splitrivet
Everybody always used to do it, not so much these days I find, in France its the norm.
Tells you a lot about our society Brits dont give a monkeys about their fellow citizens the froggies look out for one another.
Cheers,
Bob

[Edited on 21/4/10 by splitrivet]


people probably just dont want to get prosecuted tbh.


JoelP - 23/4/10 at 07:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Vindi_andy
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by bi22le
A thing that I do is to say thanks when night driving is I DONT flash my lights but dip them to side light and back on. Saves me burning out the back of the persons eyes that has just stopped to let me through. I have not had anybody do that back to me yet. Anyone else do this?


I always do this. Especially at night I think it's a bit inconsiderate to flash main beam and dazzle people.


Likewise. I always do the dip to side then back


i dont think enough drivers would understand the signal to make it worthwhile, most would think you were telling them their headlights werent on.

That said, the other day my battery was so low that when i flashed someone it killed the engine and i had to get a tow!


FFTS - 23/4/10 at 09:41 AM

Hmmmm... We seem to have a triple subject thread going

Flashing for speed traps
Flashes for thankyou at night
Fuel prices.

So...

As for the fuel prices the idea is nothing to do with who supplies the super markets, its simply stop buying at the major oil companies forecourts and when they are getting really empty of customers they will have to tempt us back and the only way that happens is by lowering prices. When they do that then the supermarkets have to follow and bingo we have a price war which is great for us. If we don't try then don't moan about the amount your paying. If you have doormat on your head then your inviting people to walk all over you.


Dangle_kt - 24/4/10 at 12:12 PM

ref flashing - MCN (motorcycle paper) ran a story a few years back about "thumbs down" for speed cameras.

So if you ever see a biker with his thumb down, then he is warning other bikers of a speed trap.

Bikers DO look out for each other. Well unless they are riding a scooter or a BMW.

[Edited on 24/4/10 by Dangle_kt]


jonny3979 - 24/4/10 at 02:55 PM

Being caught for flashing your lights is an offence - obstructing a constable in the execution of his duty...however and there is a big however....it is critical that the prosecution show that those drivers warned were either exceeding the legal limit or were likely to do so at the location of the speed detection - DPPv Glendinning 3005 and Bettsv Stevens. Without this evidence no prosecution can take place.

Real terms this means lots and lots of police stopping all cars and multiple speed detection - therefore it would never be practical to evidence this.

On the petrol thingy, a tanker driver explained to a friend that the increase in bio fuel additives to the petrols is actually have a detrimental effect on petrol tanks - it is basicaslly rotting tanks!!!

Jon