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Bob C - 25/6/05 at 08:39 AM

So, at last, after 31years driving I got a speeding ticket.
Not a gatso (I seem to be able to spot them) it was a transit on the town side of the limit sign on the way out of Llanrwst driving towards betws-y-coed. 37 in a 30
It's an expensive lesson in learning to recognise a mobile trap, I saw it WAY too late. Mind you I could easily have been doing over 60 there- nice road & quiet at 9am on a saturday.....
BTW being welsh they've sent me 2 of everything, english AND welsh. Hope they don't expect me to pay twice!
It's a shame - I was quite proud of my record, 31 years with no points and no insurance claims. They should be giving me awards, not fixed penalties.......
BFN
Bob C

Scotty - 25/6/05 at 08:42 AM

sorry for you mate
did the road need traffic monitoring - or just for raising money
bit tight though, sitting on the exit speed sign

theconrodkid - 25/6/05 at 08:54 AM

pipedo (sp) as seen on piston heads is a usefull source of info to fight these things.
there have been a lot of cases thrown out recently cos of wrongly placed vans/scameras

mookaloid - 25/6/05 at 09:04 AM

Hard luck!

I'm sure it's only a matter of time before there's only a few people left without a speeding conviction.

Or if this government had it's way we would all be driving speed restricted cars!!

Rant

Cheers

Mark

DorsetStrider - 25/6/05 at 05:15 PM

Hope I can boast 31 years without a ticket.... at the moment I have 29 years...... although i've only been driving for 5 of them so I'm guessing the other 24 don't count?

Bad luck thou mate. How much is the fine?

Peteff - 25/6/05 at 06:11 PM

34 years driving without a speeding ticket, must try harder . I've written 3 cars off (4 if you count the one I hit) and had due care and attention for it though. I've had 2 cars stolen as well so the insurance side is not clean but I'm on full no claims now.

JoelP - 25/6/05 at 06:23 PM

the vans are a bastard, they got me once at 47 in a 40 even after some hard braking, but i managed to avoid the points allegedly

CairB - 25/6/05 at 07:46 PM

Bob,

Sorry to here of your woe.

If it's where you come out of town after Llys-y-Wennol on the right then it's on the list, perhaps a gismo is the order of the day.

Bob C - 25/6/05 at 08:46 PM

Yeah - that's another ballsup - I've got checkpoint & tomtom and the location is on there - but I hadn't got it switched on. Mind you - after a life of undiscovered crime I don't feel too hard done by!
I think it's 50notes and 3 points - time will tell!
Bob

JoelP - 25/6/05 at 08:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Bob C
after a life of undiscovered crime I don't feel too hard done by!


spunky - 26/6/05 at 05:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid

Or if this government had it's way we would all be driving speed restricted cars!!

Rant

Cheers

Mark


Thats the last thing the government want....
that would be a logical thing to do as it would reduce road death massively, however too much revenue would be lost

John

gazza285 - 29/6/05 at 03:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by spunky
it would reduce road death massively
John


I would not be too sure about that. This is from the PSNI (Police Northern Island) report into the causes of accidents.

"The most common causes of injury collisions in 2004/05 were ‘inattention’ (1,492 collisions), ‘emerging from a minor road/driveway without care’ (580 collisions) and ‘excessive speed having regard to conditions’ (497 collisions)."

Simply put there are three times as many accidents caused by not looking where you are going as by going too fast. I would imagine that driving round in a car fitted with speed limiting would lead to more crashes as concentration levels fall.

JoelP - 29/6/05 at 07:47 PM

quite true there gazza, i find it hard to pay attention when doing 30mph on the bigger 30 roads - 40 would still be safe and stuff would be passing at a rate that keeps you watching, whereas at 30 your eyes wander.

I think that the problem is really misuse of speed, rather then simple excessive speed.

spunky - 29/6/05 at 11:13 PM

fair comments guys, but mobile speed traps and cameras do not make the roads safe from dimwits that don't concentrate while they drive.

Ask yourself this; if you drove averywhere at 25mph would you have an accident and are you likely to kill another road user?

No, of course not....SPEED KILLS simple as that.

John

gazza285 - 30/6/05 at 12:31 AM

The reckless man may not live as long......
But the cautious man does not live at all.....



I thank you.

Mark Allanson - 30/6/05 at 05:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by spunky
fair comments guys, but mobile speed traps and cameras do not make the roads safe from dimwits that don't concentrate while they drive.

Ask yourself this; if you drove averywhere at 25mph would you have an accident and are you likely to kill another road user?



I don't entirely agree, if we ALL drove around at 25, then yes that would be safe, it is speed differential that is the danger, try driving at 25 on a motorway. If we had upper and lower limits, say 60-90 on a motorway, then it would be safer, the limits would have to be rigourously enforced.


Anyway, its not speed that kills, its the rapid slowing down that does it

No, of course not....SPEED KILLS simple as that.

John

JAG - 4/7/05 at 11:45 AM

quote:

SPEED KILLS simple as that


What a complete and utter load of #@%$!!!

IF you have an accident increased speed gives an increased risk of injury and/or death.

But speed in itself is not the cause of all accidents.

Driving everywhere within the speed limit would not cure this country of road related accidents or injuries/deaths caused by the same.

"Speed kills" is a simple statement that the Governement is using in an attempt to influence the public and make speeding a crime with similar social status to drink driving (which deserves such status).

In my opinion anyone who believes this retoric should think about the complexity of the issues surrounding driving and ask whether ONE FACTOR can really be to blame.

[Edited on 4/7/05 by JAG]

JoelP - 4/7/05 at 06:39 PM

speeding slightly increases the chances of a crash (though the crash could be caused by the speeder or the snail), but the excess speed can make the difference between a minor or major crash.

Simon - 4/7/05 at 10:35 PM

Heard on the news today that a section of the M4 raised £1,400,000 in fines from speeding in

2 months

ATB

Simon

spunky - 5/7/05 at 02:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JAG
quote:

SPEED KILLS simple as that


What a complete and utter load of #@%$!!!

IF you have an accident increased speed gives an increased risk of injury and/or death.


[Edited on 4/7/05 by JAG]



Errr..... And your point is what?

JoelP - 5/7/05 at 06:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Simon
Heard on the news today that a section of the M4 raised £1,400,000 in fines from speeding in

2 months

ATB

Simon


was it a 50 zone with roadworks? if so, its entirely reasonable to have cameras. If not, there should be none - motorways are not the place for speed cameras, as variable conditions obviously dont need an enforced fixed speed. But with roadworks, i expect nothing less - imagine it was you working in the road with you back turned, and people going through at full chat stuff that!

Simon - 5/7/05 at 09:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP

was it a 50 zone with roadworks? if so, its entirely reasonable to have cameras. If not, there should be none - motorways are not the place for speed cameras, as variable conditions obviously dont need an enforced fixed speed. But with roadworks, i expect nothing less - imagine it was you working in the road with you back turned, and people going through at full chat stuff that!


Yep, it was a 40 limit.

But, as someone pointed out in the paper today, it's a fine idea to protect workmen doing their job, we'd all expext that, however, remove the limit (AND the cameras) when no-one is working.

When I went down the M4 a couple of years ago there was about 25 miles of roadworks, you'd need a couple of thousand workmen to justify the limit/cameras.

ATB

Simon