carnut
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 05:23 PM |
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Speeding Ticket
Went past a policeman today with a radar gun (in North Yorks)
Was in a 40mph limit zone and am unsure if I was over the limit or not. How much over do you have to be before you a given a penalty?
Also how long before the ticket would come through?
cheers
Carnut
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mcerd1
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 05:27 PM |
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I beleve they have 14 days to notify you
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Ben_Copeland
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 05:35 PM |
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Was it a camera van or just a policeman with handheld?
Dont they usually stop you if heldhand?
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t16turbotone
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 05:40 PM |
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same thing happened to me in last year....week later ticket came through post 43mph in a 40 zone, ended up doing speed awareness course to avoid
points
tony
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carnut
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 05:40 PM |
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It was a policeman with a handheld. He was stood outside the police car and there was about 5 policemen stood around.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 05:49 PM |
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You should be safe. Hand hel guns (radar or laser) give a live read and dont record any details, so the officers need to stop and issue you with a
ticket (fixed penalty notice)
Mobile cameras (usually built in to a car/van due to the size of the equipment) are live cameras and record the speed and numberplate, which goes back
to a office to be processed and FPNs issued. (within 14 days)
[Edited on 13/2/11 by loggyboy]
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mr_pr
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 05:50 PM |
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Handheld they should pull you over, normally at the scene.
Either way, they have 14 days to POST the ticket and you can be 1mph over the limit to be done theoretically.
The 10% "rule" + a little bit is complete bollocks.
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matty h
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 05:52 PM |
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Thought you could go 10% over the limit before you get done.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 05:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mr_pr
Handheld they should pull you over, normally at the scene.
Either way, they have 14 days to POST the ticket and you can be 1mph over the limit to be done theoretically.
The 10% "rule" + a little bit is complete bollocks.
10% + 2 is ACPO guidelines. If you get done for 1mph over then you could take it to court and easily get it thrown out on a technicality (opperating
tolerances etc).
If cameras were set to anything closer than they are (ususally 10%+2) the police/camera units would be overun!
[Edited on 13/2/11 by loggyboy]
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stevegough
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 05:57 PM |
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5 Policemen stood around???
In that case, you'll be ok - you should be allowed (5+1) x speedlimit = 240 miles per hour.
6 of them? - sounds a bit fishy to me - maybe a training and/or trialing new equipment session?
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coozer
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 06:02 PM |
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How about just keeping the speed under 40mph?
That avoids any anxious moments and saves you a bit cash....
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loggyboy
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 06:03 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by coozer
How about just keeping the speed under 40mph?
That avoids any anxious moments and saves you a bit cash....
Yes Dad.
:p
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owelly
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 06:32 PM |
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Or just drive at twice the speed limit to remove any doubt.....
http://www.ppcmag.co.uk
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coozer
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 06:49 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by coozer
How about just keeping the speed under 40mph?
That avoids any anxious moments and saves you a bit cash....
Yes Dad.
:p
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Kwik
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 06:52 PM |
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should come up on here if you have ever gone over the limit past a camera
http://www.i-database.co.uk/
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coozer
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 07:10 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Kwik
should come up on here if you have ever gone over the limit past a camera
http://www.i-database.co.uk/
That one works even if you don't put a reg in!
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 07:24 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
You should be safe. Hand hel guns (radar or laser) give a live read and dont record any details,
[Edited on 13/2/11 by loggyboy]
Some do. Some have a video camera in the handheld unit, and the speed is superimposed onto the video on the back of the handheld. All is recorded on
a VHS type unit for the copper to review and make decisions.
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 07:56 PM |
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I got given a picture of the car when I got caught, complete with the registration, time, date and speed. Couldn't argue there.
I think the 10% thing is so there's no doubt on either side. If they try to ticket you for doing 31 then you could always say "no I was
doing bob on 30" and claim your speedo isn't 100% accurate (what's the reading difference between having 8mm and 1.6mm tread on your
tyres?)
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eddbaz
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 08:08 PM |
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got the wife with that website
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mr_pr
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 08:54 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by loggyboy
quote:
Originally posted by mr_pr
Handheld they should pull you over, normally at the scene.
Either way, they have 14 days to POST the ticket and you can be 1mph over the limit to be done theoretically.
The 10% "rule" + a little bit is complete bollocks.
10% + 2 is ACPO guidelines. If you get done for 1mph over then you could take it to court and easily get it thrown out on a technicality (opperating
tolerances etc).
If cameras were set to anything closer than they are (ususally 10%+2) the police/camera units would be overun!
[Edited on 13/2/11 by loggyboy]
Well I was ticketed for 42 in a 40 on a straight country road as I left a built up area of 2 houses (copper hiding behind bush.)
10% + 2 would make 46 the guideline limit. As is always said, Guidelines are not law and provide no grounds for defence or prosecution.
quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
I got given a picture of the car when I got caught, complete with the registration, time, date and speed. Couldn't argue there.
I think the 10% thing is so there's no doubt on either side. If they try to ticket you for doing 31 then you could always say "no I was
doing bob on 30" and claim your speedo isn't 100% accurate (what's the reading difference between having 8mm and 1.6mm tread on your
tyres?)
You can't argue your speedo is under reading. If it under reads at all it is an illegal speedo! It can over read up to a certain % but is not
allowed to under read at all.
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JoelP
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 09:11 PM |
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i once saw one and broke hard as i approached, the speedo still read 10mph over as i passed the van, but the ticket (assumedly read further down the
road when i was going a touch faster) only said something like 46 - ie, you speedo will usually read a lot higher than you really are doing.
Ive started doing +10% though speed cameras and havent had a ticket yet.
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ashg
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| posted on 13/2/11 at 09:49 PM |
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according to my sat nav my speedo reads 3mph faster than what i am actually doing so it could be either that is correct. at the end of the day
everyone speeds, getting caught is just bad luck. sorry if anyone disagrees with me but thats the way it is. personally i like driving fast when i
can as im sure everyone on this site does, but i am also a big boy and will hold my hands up and take the punishment when i get caught.
i got tugged by a police skoda in the seven going like a hooligan through an empty tunnel, he commented that if i hadn't of stopped he was
ready to call for high speed backup as he couldn't keep up. i manned up admitted that i was in the wrong and apologized ready to receive my
fpn, instead i got a good telling off and sent on my way with my tail between my legs. he said if i hadn't of owned up to being in the wrong
then i would have been getting a fpn, so it goes to show trying to worm your way out of it wont help.
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stevegough
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| posted on 14/2/11 at 07:43 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ashg
i got tugged by a police skoda in the seven .
Lucky you!!
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mr_pr
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| posted on 14/2/11 at 08:15 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by stevegough
quote:
Originally posted by ashg
i got tugged by a police skoda in the seven .
Lucky you!!
Ha!!
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swanny
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| posted on 14/2/11 at 09:12 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mr_pr
The 10% "rule" + a little bit is complete bollocks.
not entirely, the police used it when determining whether to give me a fpn or a speed awareness course.
i was caught on a dual carriage way doing 47 (oddly its a 40mph for about 400 yards, no pedestrian access due to armco etc...  but thats another
story) and they stated in the letter that 10% plus three mph was the deciding factor between points or the course.
thank goodness my rover speedo read way over. i thought i was doing nearly sixty!
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