speedyxjs
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 07:53 PM |
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Clutchless gearchanging
Had a go at it today and got quite good at it (only 1-2 and 2-3 as deliverys were too close together).
I couldnt decide, is it bad for the gearbox?
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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martin1973
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 07:58 PM |
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not so bad if you time it right
i drive 44 tonner hardly ever use the clutch or for that matter all the gears
martin
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IndyJohn
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 08:12 PM |
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works superb with a BEC and a Translogic shifter
john
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 08:20 PM |
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I was doning it in my van 
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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IndyJohn
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 08:28 PM |
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what about the gear changes...
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 08:37 PM |
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Yeah that aswell
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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Simon
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 08:52 PM |
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So long as there's no crunching you should be fine. When you get good, try going down the box, but remember to blip the throttle.
Or it will cruch
ATB
Simon
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MartynV
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 08:52 PM |
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Can put loads into the synchroniser cones that they are not designed to handle causing wear and possible breakage!
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TGR-ECOSSE
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 09:15 PM |
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I used to work for a clutch specialist so got used to driving cars with no clutch. It happened to me recently when my cable snapped at work and people
couldn't understand how i could drive it home
It doesn't work on the wifes discovery though
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Peteff
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 09:20 PM |
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My daughter's Corsa clutch cable broke and I started it in second gear to drive it home, only about 1.2 miles. When she saw me she said,"I
could do that" so I gave it to her and left her to it. She didn't change gear but she got it back for me to fix it I followed her in my
van riding shotgun.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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Michael
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 09:46 PM |
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I to worked at a Garage that had clutch clinic on the side. Clutch fitter used to drive distances with no clutch.
So I was used to driving in second gear from Forecort to ramps - so when i was at current works, i drove apprentices car that had no clutch cable, as
he wished to tow it and i didnt like that idea.
I disappeared up the road with him trailing behind.
I was told when i did my apprenticeship that you can drive with no clutch use, but not managed it as not been told how as its done on rev range so im
aware.
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onzarob
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 10:18 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Simon
So long as there's no crunching you should be fine. When you get good, try going down the box, but remember to blip the throttle.
Or it will cruch
ATB
Simon
I was going to say the same, changing down sorts the men from the boys
It was part of my driving lessons....oh my Dad taught me to drive
Has help me out allot over the years
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indykid
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 10:29 PM |
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to anyone that's never done it, i'd say try it.
i only had a go because it'd been mentioned on here. it meant i didn't mind driving my car for 3 days without a clutch cable when it
snapped though.
car parks are fun some people just don't understand your needs when you're driving without a clutch!
tom
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zilspeed
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 11:25 PM |
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My old man once had a car with a snapped clutch release arm. He drove it for 3 months with no clutch. Grinding gears were very seldom heard.
That was what made me determined to learn the necessary technique, so from my earliest days I have been quite comofortable with changing up and down
with no clutch - start the car in first gear and off you go.
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NigeEss
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 11:37 PM |
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Last year whilst working in Inverness the clutch release arm in the Landy failed, spent the next week
in 'Ness and the 400 mile drive home without a clutch.
[Edited on 3/12/07 by NigeEss]
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Simon
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| posted on 3/12/07 at 11:43 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by onzarob
quote:
Originally posted by Simon
So long as there's no crunching you should be fine. When you get good, try going down the box, but remember to blip the throttle.
Or it will cruch
ATB
Simon
I was going to say the same, changing down sorts the men from the boys
It was part of my driving lessons....oh my Dad taught me to drive
Has help me out allot over the years
I would admit it's much easier on a bike as engine much more responsive - so much so that I would use clutch for pulling away and stopping but
not generally up and down the box. The BEC boys should try it
ATB
Simon
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craig1410
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 12:38 AM |
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I quite often do clutchless changes in my Leon Cupra and it's quite easy, both up and down. It's good to get into the habit of blipping
the throttle on down changes even when using the clutch to make it smoother and cause less wear and tear on the clutch.
There is nothing nicer than changing gear without the slightest hint of a jolt.
Craig.
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dhutch
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 08:28 AM |
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I clutchless change the 306.
- I can easly go up or down all the gears with no crunching at all.
- Although the bulk of the time i use the clutch to reduce syncro wear and the odd times i get it wrong.
Co-incidently, i cant imagine there any knack to junctions without a clutch is there?
- Once you've started it in 2nd, with a broken clutch, its just a case of 'not stoping' till you get there?
Daniel
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DaveFJ
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 08:58 AM |
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I had to drive from Norfolk home to Ipswich with a broken cable a while back. I had the wife frantically map reading try to minimse junctions and
avoid hill starts at all costs!!
Police high speed driving courses now teach that, if you are accelerating hard, you should keep the throttle planted and just dip the clutch while you
change gear BUT you have to be VERY quick!
I know several people who have damaged police cars doing this  and have never risked it in my own car
Dave
"In Support of Help the Heroes" - Always
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alfasudsprint
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 01:16 PM |
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From stpooed, when youstart the engine, does it not jump forwards like a kangaroo?
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zilspeed
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| posted on 4/12/07 at 05:30 PM |
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Not especially.
Not the smoothest, but not terrible either.
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jrevillug
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| posted on 8/12/07 at 02:05 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by dhutch
Co-incidently, i cant imagine there any knack to junctions without a clutch is there?
- Once you've started it in 2nd, with a broken clutch, its just a case of 'not stoping' till you get there?
Daniel
Not quite. You can stop by slipping into neutral. Turn the engine off, put it into gear, and start the engine when you can go.
Done this on my Imp a few times- failed seals in the hydraulics. Nice smooth gearbox and revvy engine help.
If your car is hard to start when cold (like mine is) it might be an idea to warm it up before setting off.
James
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