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DREWB

posted on 5/12/04 at 05:42 PM Reply With Quote
Cymtriks, you must be mighty proud of that work!! In fact its been checked out by me a number of times in the past, I'll ensure that we put the new chassis on the forum then sit in a dark corner
Drew

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Northy

posted on 5/12/04 at 05:59 PM Reply With Quote
DREWB,

Where's W-ton Cumbria?





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Cita

posted on 5/12/04 at 06:37 PM Reply With Quote
Rough sketch GT 40 over locost frame


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DREWB

posted on 5/12/04 at 08:35 PM Reply With Quote
You can't call yourself NORTHY ,yer from down south mate! Workington is on the west coast between Whitehaven and Maryport 32 miles south of Carlisle. Hope that helps.
CITA looking forward to checking file problem with software at the moment!!
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Northy

posted on 5/12/04 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by DREWB
You can't call yourself NORTHY ,yer from down south mate! Workington is on the west coast between Whitehaven and Maryport 32 miles south of Carlisle. Hope that helps.



Ah, yes.

Not too far away then, if I can help let me know!





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DREWB

posted on 5/12/04 at 09:51 PM Reply With Quote
Thanks Cita OK Northy
To assist in engine bay design dimensions for the 302 sbf- Audi trans 5/6 speed(radio's would be a bonus) as anyone made an adaptor plate for the above?
Which type of pedal box floor or hang, and from where? Drew

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racer56

posted on 5/12/04 at 10:36 PM Reply With Quote
Mr B., try here for some basic package info on the engines.
I'm guessing, but the weight seems to be for the bare engine (ie. no accessories) so allow a bit more for the weight of those, and also the length they will add.

Some broad detail on the vehicle dimensions are:

Wheelbase 95in. 2413mm

Track Front 55in. 1397mm

Rear 55in. 1397mm

Overall Dimensions

Length 168in. 4265mm

Width 70in 1778mm

Height 40.5in 1028.7mm

Miscellaneous Heights

Base of Windscreen 28.25in 717mm

Top of Windscreen 39.2in 970.3mm

Top of Steering Wheel 31.35in 796.3mm

Minimum Ground Clearance 4in 101.6mm

Weight (Oil and water, no fuel)

Front 920 lbs 414kg.

Rear 1080 lbs 486kg.

Total 2000 lbs 900kg.

The Ford GT40 employs a semi-monocoque construction of 0.024 in. (0.61 mm) steel. Hinged front and rear panel sections and doors are of reinforced fibre glass.

Allow space on the arches for wheels this size:

Front 6.5 x 15in.

Rear 8.00 x 15in.

I assume you have checked out these pics already?

http://www.gt40club.clara.net/kvaphotos.htm

List of parts used in kits (good for getting some other dimensions from) here:

http://www.gt40club.clara.net/technics.htm

Cheers

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Cita

posted on 6/12/04 at 08:05 PM Reply With Quote
It's surprising but a lookalike of the Ford GT can be build around a basic locost frame,given some modifications ofcourse.
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rossco

posted on 7/12/04 at 07:33 AM Reply With Quote
locost GT40

I may be able to help. I've built a replica and I race it.
Ross
ps how do you post pics on this forum?

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DREWB

posted on 7/12/04 at 10:04 AM Reply With Quote
Welcome Rossco, not sure about the pic's I'am sure someone will help, do you still have the GT40, as some additional measurements would be helpful at this stage, which motor/tbox did you run. Welcome again Drew
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rossco

posted on 7/12/04 at 12:39 PM Reply With Quote
locost GT40

Check my website www.abbeysound.com.au/ross' cars
Ross

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JoelP

posted on 7/12/04 at 12:43 PM Reply With Quote
correct link!

http://www.abbeysound.com.au/ross'scars.htm








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DREWB

posted on 7/12/04 at 06:45 PM Reply With Quote
Hi Rossco, top job did you buy in your chassis? Like the rear up-rights are they from the land down under, do you have any pic's of bare chassis? Now starting to clear work space in shop and awaiting chassis plans, great site, Cheers Drew
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krlthms

posted on 7/12/04 at 07:15 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
http://www.abbeysound.com.au/ross'scars.htm




Wow,
Those big V8's and ZF boxes look so muscular and kinetic.
The crossing over headers look pretty intimidating.
KT

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JoelP

posted on 7/12/04 at 07:49 PM Reply With Quote
his link, not mine...

i particularly liked the pics of the rear suspension. nice






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krlthms

posted on 7/12/04 at 09:09 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by racer56


Height 40.5in 1028.7mm


GT 40.5?

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Rorty

posted on 8/12/04 at 02:03 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rossco
Check my website www.abbeysound.com.au/ross' cars
Ross

What are "dove" joints?





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rossco

posted on 8/12/04 at 09:07 AM Reply With Quote
Dove Joints

Rorty have you never heard of dove joints? Well I haven't either so I'd better explain. I had an employee set up my website and not being a petrol head like me, there is the inevitable typo here and there. Please replace Dove with Rose.
Drew I bought a rolling chassis and sep body From Roaring Forties and completed the build from there. The rear uprights were supplied as part of the deal. I'll see if I can find some good shots of the bare chassis. The good news is the front uprights and rack are cortina. The chassis is almost exclusively RHS so nothing tricky in that dept. Motor is 302 Ford with alloy heads and motec injection. I won't frighten you with how much money has gone into it because I'm too scared to count it.
However constructing a chassis may not cost much more than the locost.
Glad you guys like the website, must update it.
Ross

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kb58

posted on 8/12/04 at 03:29 PM Reply With Quote
Yeah if you don't stay with stock parts it can cost a fortune... and who's going to stick with a stock engine, wheels, and tires? On a car like a GT-40, you just *have* to do some engine work and give it nice wheels and tires, and big brakes. Just those parts alone can cost $10K-25K.





Mid-engine Locost - http://www.midlana.com
And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html

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krlthms

posted on 8/12/04 at 06:03 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rossco
Rorty have you never heard of dove joints? Well I haven't either so I'd better explain. I had an employee set up my website and not being a petrol head like me, there is the inevitable typo here and there. Please replace Dove with Rose.
Drew I bought a rolling chassis and sep body From Roaring Forties and completed the build from there. The rear uprights were supplied as part of the deal. I'll see if I can find some good shots of the bare chassis. The good news is the front uprights and rack are cortina. The chassis is almost exclusively RHS so nothing tricky in that dept. Motor is 302 Ford with alloy heads and motec injection. I won't frighten you with how much money has gone into it because I'm too scared to count it.
However constructing a chassis may not cost much more than the locost.
Glad you guys like the website, must update it.
Ross


Hello Ross,
C'mon, scare me!
How much for the headers? Do the right and left one come apart when you unbolt them, or are they intertwined when made? Why?
Very beautiful GT40 by the way, enjoy
Cheers

KT

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kb58

posted on 8/12/04 at 08:43 PM Reply With Quote
I was meaning to ask that too, just how the headers are mounted to the engine. The pictures appear to show one huge header assembly. How do you get the flanges into position. Is it really two parts?





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And the book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/midlana/paperback/product-21330662.html
Kimini - a tube-frame, carbon shell, Honda Prelude VTEC mid-engine Mini: http://www.kimini.com
And its book - http://www.lulu.com/shop/kurt-bilinski/kimini-how-to-design-and-build-a-mid-engine-sports-car-from-scratch/paperback/product-4858803.html

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rossco

posted on 9/12/04 at 06:50 AM Reply With Quote
The headers cost me approx A$2500 and were made by a very talented fabricator.He wanted to sand his tig welds down and I wouldn't let him, cause they look so good.Oh yes I had them coated inside and out too and that cost another$500. I hope I'm not boring you, or explaining things you already know but the headers are known as a crossover or 180 degree type. What this means on the v8 cylinder 2&3 and 6&7 crossover to the opposite collector and this is what gives the GT40 it's wonderful exhaust note. The collectors are removeable from the primary pipes and then the primary pipes can be removed one by one but only in the appropriate order. By the way I'm building a Locost because I wanted to build a car from scratch and I'm in the Lotus club.
Ross

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DREWB

posted on 9/12/04 at 10:02 AM Reply With Quote
Rossco are you getting your u2u's Drew
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Rorty

posted on 10/12/04 at 04:47 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Glan Noye
I came across this today it might provide a starting point. http://www.rorty-design.com/content/beetle...ensive%20manual and (IMG:http://www.rorty-design.com/images/Beetle_chassis02.jpg)
Food for thought,Glan.If link doesnt work try this one http://volksrods.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=7719


I was just informed of this site which is run by a bloke who bought one of my old mid-engine chassis for his GT40.
LINK.





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DREWB

posted on 11/12/04 at 07:28 PM Reply With Quote
Hey Rorty, great links & photo's that mid engine chassis looked real strong, why not do a updated version solelly for the GT40? The adapter plate looked very tidy too, what thickness plate was used & any top tip on how to do? thanks Drew
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