goodall
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| posted on 21/12/06 at 11:50 PM |
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"diffing" also known as drifting
does anyone know were it got this name? i'm thinking that it might have something to do with welding the diff or adding a diff lock so that the
tail can be kicked out with less power by useing the steering
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goodall
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| posted on 21/12/06 at 11:51 PM |
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i know its some what nothing to do with locosts
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the_fbi
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| posted on 22/12/06 at 12:01 AM |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drifting_(motorsport)
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goodall
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| posted on 22/12/06 at 12:12 AM |
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no what i want to know is why its called diffing by some people
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Fatgadget
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| posted on 22/12/06 at 01:37 AM |
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Maybe the same reason why some folks say cossie instead of Cosworth or Festa instead of Fiesta!
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nitram38
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| posted on 22/12/06 at 05:17 AM |
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Probably because you need a locked diff to do it?
[Edited on 22/12/2006 by nitram38]
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alister667
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| posted on 22/12/06 at 08:28 AM |
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It's very much a Northern Ireland term, and it is because (as stated) to do it you require a locked or limited slip diff.
There's a bit of a craze over here for folks to leave big black donut marks at junctions in roads - all highly illegal of course. This is known
as 'diff testing'.
http://members.lycos.co.uk/alister667/
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DarrenW
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| posted on 22/12/06 at 09:34 AM |
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i wonder if its something to do with Asian take up of the sport and poor translation.
Drifting - dliffing - diffing
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britishtrident
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| posted on 22/12/06 at 10:54 AM |
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You don't need a LSD to put a car in a fourwheel drift.
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goodall
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| posted on 22/12/06 at 12:08 PM |
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you can even do it in a fwd car as long as you don't plan on doing anything more than 120 degrees, i think, i persume the lsd just makes things
more stable as the inside wheel may be prome to lifting of the road and with an open diff this would cause drifting to stop as theres no power being
transmited to the road to cause the wheels to spin. why do people do it, its just a bad way to ruin your tyres and to get in bother with the cops.
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alister667
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| posted on 22/12/06 at 02:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
You don't need a LSD to put a car in a fourwheel drift.
You're right yes, but to keep it there and steer it round a 180 degree corner with your throttle in a 'stylish' fashion does, which
is why the good folks at The Sideways Racing Club use RWD cars (mantas, MK2 escorts, toyota twin cams,
nissan sx200s) with locked / Limited slip diffs.
I've raced at their meetings and took time out to watch the drifting. It's held on tracks and judged on style and control.
It's not for me mind you 
An open diff doesn't allow you to break traction in a controlled enough way to keep the tail out (smoothly) round a long bend. God knows
I've tried!
Also for 'donutting' you wind up with Croissants not really proper donuts!
http://members.lycos.co.uk/alister667/
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britishtrident
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| posted on 22/12/06 at 05:18 PM |
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Popular modern misuse of the term, many confuse a drift with a power slide.
A drift is nothing to do with breaking traction it is all about using the throttle to transfer weight between the front at rear wheels at the limit
of adhesion.
This is a drift ---
http://www.formula1.com/archive/halloffame/gallery/268/7.html
Note wheels pointed straight ahead, no sign of wheel spin.
The technique used in those days was to find the limmit of adhesion then get the tail out by twitching the steering or throttle, let the tail come out
far enough and then start straightening the wheel until the wheel was in the straight ahead position then control the tail with minimal changes to the
throttle. If the car is balanced on the absolute limit of adhesion big changes of throttle are just not possible.
Done correctly it is the quickest way round a corner, it works particularly well on corners with tightening radius towards the exit such the old Clark
at Knockhill.
Fangio, Moss and Clark were the best exponents, some nice photos around of Clark drifting a Lotus 25/33 --- he used to do at corners where he knew
his photographer pals would be standing.
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britishtrident
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| posted on 22/12/06 at 05:22 PM |
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Good shot of Denny Hulme doing like it should be
http://www.formula1.com/archive/halloffame/gallery/135/5.html
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C10CoryM
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| posted on 23/12/06 at 03:13 AM |
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Drifting is one of those things thats fun to do, boring as hell to watch. Was at some historic races and you watched a 917 porsche go wailing down
the track with a sound nice enough to give you shivers, and then a drift car comes out and slides around the track at slow speeds......... yawn.
Open diffs also tend to switch sides if you have body roll. Had a truck with really bad body roll and as you changed steering angle to straighten up
it would lighten the opposite tire and spin it instead. Would send you into an ugly fishtail. I have to confess, throttle oversteer is one of my
favorite pastimes even if it does make my driving suffer. And my vehicles, I killed that truck doing just that
http://www3.telus.net/public/corym/crash/ Oops.
Makes me suck on the track though. I enter corners way too hot and scrub off speed. One of these days Ill learn to drive
"Our watchword evermore shall be: The Maple Leaf Forever!"
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soggy 3
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| posted on 24/12/06 at 09:01 PM |
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Try asking here 
http://www.driftworks.com/forum/
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