wheezy
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| posted on 7/2/07 at 08:49 PM |
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Radical at Llandow
I saw this video of a Radical testing at Llandow. Radical Test
For those of you that have driven at the circuit these are some impressive laptimes.
It almost seems to fast!
Dave
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ch1ll1
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| posted on 7/2/07 at 09:00 PM |
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A mate of mine used to race them
they are great cars imho
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wheezy
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| posted on 7/2/07 at 09:17 PM |
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I was thinking it was a bit sped up. When we had a track day there last year the best times were around 48 sec (Hellfire) and to knock 8 or 9 sec off
that around a short circuit is pretty impresive. It may be possible with the Radical SR6 (400+ Bhp).
It would be interesting to find out what the Lap record is.
Dave
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lsdweb
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| posted on 7/2/07 at 09:37 PM |
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Looks a bit too fast. He'd also not get any times there on sprints as he's crossing white lines, especially at caravan corner!
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 7/2/07 at 09:40 PM |
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I don't think its speeded up,they really are that quick,a sr3 on slicks should get round that circuit in 40 seconds,if it takes your average bec
seven 48 seconds,I am the biggest fan of bec seven's but I am afraid there not in the same league as a SR3 
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tadltd
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| posted on 7/2/07 at 10:04 PM |
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That isn't sped up - that's how fast they are. The SR8's are even quicker...
Best Regards,
Steve.
www.turnerautosport.com
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JoelP
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| posted on 7/2/07 at 10:13 PM |
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i too thought sped up, but then, slicks alone might have that much effect on it. The time seems about right by comparison anyway.
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worX
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| posted on 7/2/07 at 10:17 PM |
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I know what you mean by the smoothness, it's almost like a lack of the jerkiness of the Actual video footage - but what made it look fake to me
is when it looks a little speeded up, his hands seem to move faster than they should if they were controlling a wheel round a racetrack...
having said that, I fully believe that the radical would be 8 seconds a lap faster than a Seven (even Hellfire's!!!).
but there is one undeniable piece of evidence - that radical doesn't have a stereo and all I can hear is Tracey bloody chapman = it must be
tampered with!!!
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Originally posted by chris mason
it looks like the video has been sped up, i've no idea what lap times he should be getting but i saw a 40sec time, but it all looks to smooth to
be real time.
Chris
[Edited on 7/2/07 by worX]
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 7/2/07 at 11:04 PM |
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im drunk and i think it looked sped after about a minute
no-ones hands move like that under normal operation, my thought is the actual soundtrack of the car sped up would give it away as a fake
[Edited on 7/2/07 by liam.mccaffrey]
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lsdweb
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| posted on 7/2/07 at 11:19 PM |
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If you look at the sprint times from the Welsh Championship where the 'lap' is 1 3/4 laps with a standing start from the paddock and the
flying finsih just after Caravan Corner, the up to 1100 cc Bike engined single seaters (my class for this season) are doing about 71 / 72 seconds. So
a 40 second flying lap should be 'doable'.
The Welsh times from last season are here Go to
class 5B.
It still looks speeded up and I agree with the drunken Liam (Wednesday nights in Pembrokeshire aye!) that the music could mask something.
Regards
Wyn
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Simon
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| posted on 7/2/07 at 11:56 PM |
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Watched about 30 secs and got bored of the music.
Put the mike in the exhaust, not the ipod
ATB
Simon
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 8/2/07 at 08:54 AM |
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post alcohol haze, i stand by what i said last night
Wyn,
we don't normally do wednesdays but we both had crap days so went out had a cracking meal and a few drinks,
a good time was had by all
[Edited on 8/2/07 by liam.mccaffrey]
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procomp
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| posted on 8/2/07 at 09:11 AM |
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Hi to be honest when you realise what the driving style is to get a radical round a track it dosent look tamperd with.
Espesialy if you watch the speed of hand from gear stick to wheel and the time taken for the gear indicator to change up it all looks spot on just a
good car and a good driver.
cheers matt
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 8/2/07 at 06:06 PM |
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You will have to take the Sprint R down there Chris and see if you can get round in less than 40 seconds,I no you like a challenge
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lsdweb
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| posted on 8/2/07 at 08:16 PM |
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Liam - no need to explain your drinking habits to me :-)
Chris - there are parts of Llandow where run off is non existent. Trust me - been there and got the bruises to prove it!
Wyn
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 10/2/07 at 01:54 PM |
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To compare, here's one of the quicker laps I did whilst recording a couple of sessions at Llandow a few years ago with my blade Locost, at about
47.8s timing off the video itself
Youtube link
If you watch both its obvious how much more mechanical (as well as aero) grip the Radical has, which isnt suprising considering they are likely to be
on slicks compared to A032s, and have a lot lower and wider chassis. One of the biggest places he gains though is from the apex of the last corner to
the apex of the first corner (bus stop), where he's about 2.5s quicker so it shows how much more speed its able to carry onto the back straight
(due to aero / slicks).
There are quicker things than a Radical for similar money though, something like a Juno are regarded to be significantly quicker with similar power.
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lsdweb
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| posted on 10/2/07 at 05:02 PM |
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Chris
He's also taking a much wider line out of caravan corner (over the white line which would lose him his time in a sprint), which would allow him
to carry more speed throught he corner and onto the straight before the bus stop.
Regards
Wyn
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 10/2/07 at 05:21 PM |
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Yep, I take it you mean cutting across the line for the pit entrance?
What are the rules on sprints then, surely you can jump the kerbs etc at the chicane, yet you'd technically be crossing the white lines there
too?
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lsdweb
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| posted on 10/2/07 at 05:58 PM |
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yes. the white line leading up to the pit lane entrance.
Llandow is a bit mad because the white line in places is track side of the kerbs! When I've competed there there has been confusion, although
the interpretation is that breaking the white line like the guy in the Radical is doing is against the rules. We had a guy in the rally car class a
few years ago who was actually four wheels the wrong side of the kerbs in the bus stop! He has a skip business btw! They clamped down a bit after
that!
Regards
Wyn
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 10/2/07 at 10:37 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisGamlin
To compare, here's one of the quicker laps I did whilst recording a couple of sessions at Llandow a few years ago with my blade Locost, at about
47.8s timing off the video itself
Youtube link
If you watch both its obvious how much more mechanical (as well as aero) grip the Radical has, which isnt suprising considering they are likely to be
on slicks compared to A032s, and have a lot lower and wider chassis. One of the biggest places he gains though is from the apex of the last corner to
the apex of the first corner (bus stop), where he's about 2.5s quicker so it shows how much more speed its able to carry onto the back straight
(due to aero / slicks).
There are quicker things than a Radical for similar money though, something like a Juno are regarded to be significantly quicker with similar power.
I would say the main reason the SR3 Radical would be 8 seconds a lap quicker than your average BEC 7,would be the shear grunt of a SR3,with 1500
powertech turbo, 320bhp,over 600bhp per ton,its a small point that appears to have been overlooked
[Edited on 19/05/04 by PAUL FISHER]
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 10/2/07 at 10:50 PM |
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Its not a turbo SR3 is it, I assumed it was just a 1500 busa from the race series? Even so, those engines are claimed to have 252bhp which is still
twice what my BEC had in that vid, although TBH I think they are nearer 230-240bhp.
[Edited on 10/2/07 by ChrisGamlin]
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PAUL FISHER
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| posted on 10/2/07 at 11:17 PM |
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Its a SR3 Chris,I had assumed it was a turbo,but it could be the less powerfull 250BHP model  like you say its still got twice the power of the
little old blade,and would the SR3 turbo be faster round that short twisty circuit than a NA SR3 anyway?I think the SR3 TURBO has the lap record for
the Nurburgh Ring,but thats a completely different type of circuit.
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damien
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| posted on 11/2/07 at 10:36 AM |
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its ahell of alot faster than my tin top going round liandow - http://www.poogiepugs.co.uk/videos/springmeet/springmeet2006.wmv
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 11/2/07 at 10:47 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by PAUL FISHER
Its a SR3 Chris,I had assumed it was a turbo,but it could be the less powerfull 250BHP model like you say its still got twice the power of the
little old blade,and would the SR3 turbo be faster round that short twisty circuit than a NA SR3 anyway?
I think the majority of SR3s (certainly those that race) are just NA engines, but as you say I wouldn't expect a turbo engine to be any quicker
round a little circuit like Llandow anyway.
[Edited on 11/2/07 by ChrisGamlin]
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wheezy
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| posted on 12/2/07 at 02:30 PM |
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quote:
I think the SR3 TURBO has the lap record for the Nurburgh Ring,but thats a completely different type of circuit.
The SR3 did indeed hold the lap record for a street legal car. They then took out the SR8 a year later and posted the first ever sub 8 minute lap on
road legal tyres.
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