Just brough saxo for daughter and got brake problem. Excessive travel on peddle nearly to floor and then good peddle, Going to sort it out in morning any ideas what it could be.

My first guess would be handbrake needs adjusted if it's got drums at the back.

or

Sticky caliper slides.

Air in brake system?

Remove the rear drums if they will come off,( if not use a big brass drift band knock the stub axle out through the suspension arm ) Chances are that the rear drums are worn leaving a ridge that get caught behind the brake shoes, depending on how badly worn they are you may be able to remove the ridge. Check that the auto adjusters aren't siezed, manually operate the adjusters a small amount at a time fitting the drum to check brakes do not bind each time. Finally refit the drum using a new lock nut. Yet to see an auto adjuster that really works

You can find out which wheel it is by clamping the flex hoses one at a time.
My guess if there is nothing obvious at the rear it is a stuck front caliper.


[Edited on 16/7/11 by britishtrident]

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Originally posted by rusty nuts
Remove the rear drums if they will come off,( if not use a big brass drift band knock the stub axle out through the suspension arm ) Chances are that the rear drums are worn leaving a ridge that get caught behind the brake shoes, depending on how badly worn they are you may be able to remove the ridge. Check that the auto adjusters aren't siezed, manually operate the adjusters a small amount at a time fitting the drum to check brakes do not bind each time. Finally refit the drum using a new lock nut. Yet to see an auto adjuster that really works

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If it still the same after sorting the rears out check the pushrod bar from pedal to servo, the nut can work its way loose causing long pedal travel.

atb

Rob

Had this when the wife had a Mk2 106 (same mechanicals) at 18 months old; every 1000 miles or so, I had to tweak the self adjusters up on the rear shoes. Peugeot said it was normal to have sod all for the first half of the pedal...and new parts probably wouldn't make any difference!

It's a "feature" of some cars...

Missus's 106 is the same, despite having the drums refitted (with a whole rear axle) and a front caliper replaced they still feel pants..

if its the basic saxo/106 with only tree wheel bolts they are normally rubbish, all you can do is back handbrake adjuster off over ride self adjusters and hope for best .
If you got bendix shoes rather than girling, adjuster tend to lose small clip at bottom of adjuster wheel so when you use brakes the dam adjuster unwinds itself so backing off brakes..