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Undoing Rear Wheel nuts...
Dangle_kt - 2/1/08 at 11:27 AM

I know this sounds dumb, BUT....

I took the wheels off my car, onto axle stands and then found a spacer on the rear hubs.

Problem is I can't undo them cos the flippin thing just spins with the axle.

There is no sticky out bits on the drum brake rear hub so shove a bar through a hold it steady that way, so I'm stumped. No engine so can't put it in gear, no hand brake so can't apply that...

any bright ideas guys?

How embaressing......


speedyxjs - 2/1/08 at 11:31 AM

Thats a tough one


speedyxjs - 2/1/08 at 11:34 AM

Just a thought, is there anything on the driveshaft you may be able to use like a uj you can stick something in to stop it moving?


Werner Van Loock - 2/1/08 at 11:35 AM

Bar between the studs?


russbost - 2/1/08 at 11:36 AM

If you have studs just jam a bar across 2 of them whilst you undo whatever secures these spacers, if you're on bolts just pop a couple back in & jam with a bar the same as with studs.HTH


Paul TigerB6 - 2/1/08 at 11:36 AM

Nowhere to fit a couple of big bolts at all??


speedyxjs - 2/1/08 at 11:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dangle_kt
There is no sticky out bits on the drum brake rear hub so shove a bar through a hold it steady that way



i think that means he cant use the studs


nick205 - 2/1/08 at 11:40 AM

try shouting and swearing at it like a madman - it won't undo them, but you'll feel better

As above, use a bar or steel strap wedged or bolted between the studs/bolts to lever against.


Dangle_kt - 2/1/08 at 11:41 AM

bar ACROSS the studs might work, they are done up pretty tight though, and if the bar slips.....

oh I never liked my knuckles anyway, so I'll give that a go!

cheers fellas! Couldnt see the woods for the trees there!


Howlor - 2/1/08 at 11:48 AM

Drop it down on the wheels is the best option.


Paul TigerB6 - 2/1/08 at 11:50 AM

Pop a couple of nuts onto the end of the studs - will make sure the bracing bar cant easily slip of the ends of the studs. Worked for me with Sierra hub nuts and that took a 3/4 inch breaker bar with 3ft of scafold pole to move them and a solid steel bar to prevent the hubs turning

[Edited on 2/1/08 by Paul TigerB6]


Howlor - 2/1/08 at 11:50 AM

Reading it again though it looks as though you won't get at the nut through the wheel centre.

Sorry
Steve


Dangle_kt - 2/1/08 at 11:59 AM

I'll get my mate to hold it then!

HAHA!

Can't put the wheels on and drop it to the floor because of the spacer, I can undo the wheel nuts no prob, but the spacer nuts are between the wheel nuts so are covered by the metal of the wheels I'm using.

Cheers

quote:
Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
Pop a couple of nuts onto the end of the studs - will make sure the bracing bar cant easily slip of the ends of the studs. Worked for me with Sierra hub nuts and that took a 3/4 inch breaker bar with 3ft of scafold pole to move them and a solid steel bar to prevent the hubs turning

[Edited on 2/1/08 by Paul TigerB6]


Tralfaz - 2/1/08 at 12:37 PM

Can you borrow/source an impact gun?


T


Marcus - 2/1/08 at 01:03 PM

At the risk of sounding silly, have someone stand on the brake pedal whilst you're undoing the nuts (apologies if you have no brakes)


Aico - 2/1/08 at 01:15 PM

Get an impactgun. Maybe you can borrow one or rent one? Or buy a (cheap) electric one 18V or so. Or put the nuts/bolts on there without the wheel. You can use that to hold the hub while someone else removes the spacer.


greggors84 - 2/1/08 at 01:26 PM

Maybe a picture if possible would help as it seems no one really understands the problem.


Aico - 2/1/08 at 02:19 PM

It's a spacer which bolts onto the hub. The wheel is then bolted into the spacer.


2b_pablo - 2/1/08 at 07:14 PM

stick the ratchet/spanner onto one of the nuts and point the ratchet/spanner back across the centre of the hub. smack it hard with a hammer to break it loose.


gazza285 - 2/1/08 at 07:35 PM

Spanner, yes. Ratchet, no. Unless you want to break it.


2b_pablo - 2/1/08 at 08:48 PM

depends what fits. wouldnt be the first time Ive thumped my rathet with a hammer lol! still going strong.


Dangle_kt - 2/1/08 at 08:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by gazza285
Spanner, yes. Ratchet, no. Unless you want to break it.


I dont have a sunken spanner set, and the bolts are recessed,

Pic is HERE:

[img]http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?action=attachment&tid=79671&pid=664292[/img]


blueshift - 3/1/08 at 12:50 AM

Put a bar across between the wheel nuts to stop the hub turning, then undo the spacer bolts with a socket and breaker bar / impact wrench.

Pretty much like everyone else has been saying really! Don't see the big problem!

Or, if you don't want to try and ebay the spacers - just grind the f**kers off.

[Edited on 3/1/08 by blueshift]


2b_pablo - 3/1/08 at 09:29 AM

from the pic you can easily put a bar through the wheel nuts


t.j. - 3/1/08 at 11:27 AM

Can't you just hold it and use a air-impact-tool?


t.j. - 3/1/08 at 11:27 AM

Can't you just hold it and use a air-impact-tool?


02GF74 - 3/1/08 at 05:11 PM

two ways I would try it.

1. impact hammer - may be enough to loosen without runing the wheel
2. make a thick bar with 2 holes that bolts onto the hub
3. get a steel wheel and drill out hole for the spacer nut


Angel Acevedo - 4/1/08 at 06:35 AM

Sorry,
Silly answer,
Are they Right hand or Left Hand threads??
AA


geoff shep - 4/1/08 at 02:44 PM

I guess people mean like this - if its a left hand thread.

OR

Can someone stand on the brake pedal - if fitted

OR

Can you clamp the driveshaft somewhere with a mole grip


How did they do it up?

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