40inches
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 12:16 PM |
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GRIP tyre softener
The wheels and tyres were the first expensive thing I bought, while I had the money, that's 9 years ago, I know
in reality I should replace the tyres, although they haven't been used yet  , but can't afford £400-£500.
Would GRIP be OK for road tyres and does it last?
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ReMan
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 12:35 PM |
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I'd be using them with or without GRIP.
I'm sure if they were new and have not been subjected to the environment they'll still be perfectly good. They never used to have dates
ion them did they 
www.plusnine.co.uk
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HowardB
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 12:52 PM |
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my experience,..
my kit had old tyres on it, the original build ones, looked ok, but in reality the rubber was so hard that there was little or no grip when it was
needed. The result was expensive, far more so than a can of grip, or new tyres all round.
by all means hoon the old rubber, but have good rubber for the roads.
Howard
Fisher Fury was 2000 Zetec - now a 1600 (it Lives again  and goes zoom)
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designer
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 12:59 PM |
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After nine years you have to replace tyres.
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Bare
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 03:35 PM |
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BLEACH is the traditional 'Drag Strip' tire softener/grip enhancer/ smokey burnout maker.
Yes it wrecks tires.
As above your 9 year old tires are now Crap.
They need replacing.. period
[Edited on 9/8/12 by Bare]
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40inches
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 03:45 PM |
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Oh well! Change tyres or IVA? Suppose I could IVA now, then register car and change tyres next year
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 03:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by designer
After nine years you have to replace tyres.
If they have been stored in a cool, dry place out of sunlight they may be perfectly ok.
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snakebelly
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 03:51 PM |
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definately change them, they will look fine now but my guess is that after a few miles you will see sidewall crazing start to appear.
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Dopdog
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 04:06 PM |
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9 years old
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40inches
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 04:13 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Dopdog
9 years old
'fraid so, I got them while I had the money(Khumo Exta Supra's 16x45x205 with new alloys) car was
going to be ready within 12months, LOL
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hughpinder
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 04:31 PM |
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Personally I'd IVA with those tyres on. You may have to do some remediation and then get DVLA etc so a reasonable amount of time is going to
pass before you're on the road. Start saving for some new ones now and accept that you'll have to replace them ASAP. In the meantime, if
you get it on the road, drive slowly(ish), and check for crazing both sides of every tyre every time you go out. Start with a drive of just a couple
of miles and gradually build up if everything is ok! I was reading up on ROSPA site just now - it says dump tyres that have been 'stored'
if more than 6 years old, but tyres that have had some use are ok for up to 10 years! In the past, when I was more into 'classic' cars I
drove several that hadn't moved for years and had 'hard' tyres with massive flats from standing in the same place for years. It is a
bit like driving on ice. Those tyres were hard to the touch though.
I do think some of these rules are a bit random. The tyres degrade from chemical action/oxidation and from UV - but tyres that are used in areas of
the world with 10 times our UV still get given the same life span.
Regards
Hugh
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Ivan
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 04:45 PM |
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I was still driving my Cobra on 18 year old tyres - mind you they were pretty hard at that stage and the beading got torn off when they were demounted
for new tyres. But I know I was stupid and won't take that chance again.
So - rather don't do it but you might get away with it if they never get pushed hard enough to get hot (sustained high speeds or heavy
cornering) I realy don't think the risk is worth the cost of new tyres.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 05:15 PM |
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Not only are your tyre old, they're also the wrong size.
16" rims indeed.
I give you six months before you're doing a search on getting 13" rims on there.
Edited to add.
Give them a wipe over with cellulose thinners then wrap them in black bags for a week or two.
They'll be lovely and soft after that.
Not that I recommend this of course.
[Edited on 9/8/12 by zilspeed]
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mark chandler
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 05:36 PM |
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I guarantee there are plenty of 10 year old FWD cars driving around with less than 50,000 miles still with original factory fitted tyres on the rear
still.
I,d rag the hell out of them on an airfield track day
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laptoprob
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 06:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mark chandler
I guarantee there are plenty of 10 year old FWD cars driving around with less than 50,000 miles still with original factory fitted tyres on the rear
still.
I,d rag the hell out of them on an airfield track day
+1
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v8kid
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 08:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Not only are your tyre old, they're also the wrong size.
16" rims indeed.
I give you six months before you're doing a search on getting 13" rims on there.
Edited to add.
Give them a wipe over with cellulose thinners then wrap them in black bags for a week or two.
They'll be lovely and soft after that.
Not that I recommend this of course.
[Edited on 9/8/12 by zilspeed]
So that's how you get so much grip off the line
Cheers!
You'd be surprised how quickly the sales people at B&Q try and assist you after ignoring you for the past 15 minutes when you try and start a
chainsaw
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zilspeed
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| posted on 9/8/12 at 09:51 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by v8kid
quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
Not only are your tyre old, they're also the wrong size.
16" rims indeed.
I give you six months before you're doing a search on getting 13" rims on there.
Edited to add.
Give them a wipe over with cellulose thinners then wrap them in black bags for a week or two.
They'll be lovely and soft after that.
Not that I recommend this of course.
[Edited on 9/8/12 by zilspeed]
So that's how you get so much grip off the line
Cheers!
My remarkably short motorsport career (two sprints at Kames and a hillclimb at Forrestburn several years ago) were notable for one peculiarity.
My little GTM Rossa K3 with 103bhp could equal the 64ft times of a Subaru Impreza. Thereafter, they buggered off, but nevertheless, initial traction
was astonishing. This was on ancient Yokohama A008s given to me by John Stevenson.
No celly thinners was used in this giant slaying feat. 
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 10/8/12 at 08:23 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by zilspeed
My little GTM Rossa K3 with 103bhp could equal the 64ft times of a Subaru Impreza. Thereafter, they buggered off, but nevertheless, initial traction
was astonishing. This was on ancient Yokohama A008s given to me by John Stevenson.
No celly thinners was used in this giant slaying feat.
Most mid-engined RWD cars have amazing levels of traction from a standing start. My MR2 Turbo was king of the traffic light grand prix
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mcerd1
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| posted on 10/8/12 at 10:19 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by 40inches
quote:
Originally posted by Dopdog
9 years old
'fraid so, I got them while I had the money(Khumo Exta Supra's 16x45x205 with new alloys) car was
going to be ready within 12months, LOL
I'd vote for IVA now, but take it easy and replace them as soon as possible (my first car had 21 year old tyres on it when I got it )
205/45 R16 is one of the standard sizes for the front of a Dax Rush (the others being 15" and 17" wheels)
its acually the size I've got on the front of mine
it might be worth seing if anyone's got a pair of part worn or new tyres kicking around, as I know a few folk have changed there wheel / tyre
sizes
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