Ninehigh
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| posted on 19/9/11 at 08:47 PM |
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Tuition fees
Found out this morning that people in scotland aren't paying tuition fees and those in Wales pay a max of £3500 ish per year. I understand from
this forum that it means the Welsh and Scottish are, in turn, not getting something us English are, but I'm yet to see what I get in England
that isn't free in Wales.. Anyone like to fill me in on this?
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daviep
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| posted on 19/9/11 at 09:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Ninehigh
Found out this morning that people in scotland aren't paying tuition fees and those in Wales pay a max of £3500 ish per year. I understand from
this forum that it means the Welsh and Scottish are, in turn, not getting something us English are, but I'm yet to see what I get in England
that isn't free in Wales.. Anyone like to fill me in on this?
Ain't life a bitch sometimes
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mcerd1
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| posted on 19/9/11 at 09:14 PM |
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you got some free riots  
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Macbeast
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| posted on 19/9/11 at 09:14 PM |
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Better weather 
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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zilspeed
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| posted on 19/9/11 at 09:26 PM |
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AND !!!
You don't get forced to eat these either !
Square sausage on a Morton's roll.
MMMmmmm......
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v8kid
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| posted on 19/9/11 at 09:41 PM |
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Jobs?
You'd be surprised how quickly the sales people at B&Q try and assist you after ignoring you for the past 15 minutes when you try and start a
chainsaw
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keith777
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| posted on 19/9/11 at 10:16 PM |
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I love square sausages-and scotch pies -mmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!
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keith777
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| posted on 19/9/11 at 10:20 PM |
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P.s they get free prescriptions and glasses in scotland too -(but I never told ya)!!
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blakep82
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| posted on 19/9/11 at 10:37 PM |
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the scottish politicians will do anything to please the voters and get them on side to split the UK, if that does happen, then i think wales and
scotlands taxes will shoot right up because i don't think we can afford to keep going like this...
its like communism, which as we all know is brilliant in theory, but doesn't work in practice
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austin man
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| posted on 19/9/11 at 10:38 PM |
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we give, we dont get, our strain on the benefits system is far greater than the other 2. Simples realy get Britain working well not that simple even
if we do would you really expect and benefits as a worker who pays tax
Contencious oooh
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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eddbaz
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 01:47 AM |
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Great, my tax paid here in england is helping to pay for free tuition in Scotland while my kids accure student det here, life is a bitch.
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morcus
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 03:35 AM |
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You have to pay some sort of graduation charge in Scotland if your scottish. I went to University in Scotland and I'm sure when we added up all
of the various weird charges and tax bits and bobs that there wasn't as big a gulf, though fees in Scotland were at the time about half what
they were in England. My Brother attends Bangor University in Wales and he gets all kinds of perks, Including some sort of Grant for going to
university in wales.
The moral of the story is, apply for Universities outside of England.
In a White Room, With Black Curtains, By the Station.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 07:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by morcus
The moral of the story is, apply for Universities outside of England.
but not edinburgh or st. andrews - they both just decided to charge english students £9000 for every year your there (and that could be 5 years for a
masters up here...)
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Ninehigh
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 07:29 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by keith777
I love square sausages-and scotch pies -mmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!
I like square sausage too Just the right shape to go on the bacon buttie
Well that's what I mean, Wales and Scotland also get free prescriptions, Wales don't charge for parking in hospitals, so what do we get in
England that they don't? Lower council tax? Better funded schools?
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cliftyhanger
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 07:31 AM |
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My kids are currently 16 and 14. So I have been thinking.....
is there anything to stop me buying a house/flat in Scotland, designate it my main home (keeping our current house as a holiday home ) and then
sending them to a Scottish Uni. In fact, they could then live in the place, saving rent.
Just a thought....
But yes, saw some figures a while ago that implied spending per capita in the UK is far from even between the 4 countries. England comes worse off by
a fair margin
edit for fat fingers
[Edited on 20/9/11 by cliftyhanger]
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David Jenkins
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 07:42 AM |
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The Scottish fees thing is currently heading for the European court...
If you're English you pay the £9000 p.a. fees.
If you're Scottish, or from anywhere else in the EU then you don't pay the fees.
This is totally against all the EU rules.
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Benzine
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 07:44 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cliftyhanger
is there anything to stop me buying a house/flat in Scotland, designate it my main home (keeping our current house as a holiday home ) and then
sending them to a Scottish Uni.
I believe you have to have lived in scotland at least 3 years previous to be eligible for free tuition
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britishtrident
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 07:54 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by David Jenkins
The Scottish fees thing is currently heading for the European court...
If you're English you pay the £9000 p.a. fees.
If you're Scottish, or from anywhere else in the EU then you don't pay the fees.
This is totally against all the EU rules.
It isn't because it is based on residence not nationality or place of birth.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 07:58 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Benzine
quote:
Originally posted by cliftyhanger
is there anything to stop me buying a house/flat in Scotland, designate it my main home (keeping our current house as a holiday home ) and then
sending them to a Scottish Uni.
I believe you have to have lived in scotland at least 3 years previous to be eligible for free tuition
and you'll still have to make sure they don't want to go to edinburgh or st. andrews - or you'll have a heart attack when yo see the
price of a small flat
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hughpinder
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 08:07 AM |
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Not quite, I am researching it at the moment.
If you are English you need to be resident for 5 years before the course acceptance date. If you are from anywhere else in the EU you can rent a house
is scotland and claim its your main residence, and the next day start your course and its free. Since the student will need somewhere to live, this is
a no brainer - you're French, so you rent a house for the duration of the course, claim its your main residence, at voila - free university. So
we are also paying for free university for the 20% of the scottish university population that are from the EU. I have been looking at changing my
nationality from british to 'citizen of the EU' but its hard to tell if this would have the desired effect.
To quote from wikipedia (not 100% reliable I know)
"Following devolution, tuition fees were first abolished in Scotland and replaced with charge after graduation - the graduate endowment - to
help pay for tuition.[9] The endowment system itself was later abolished so that all students domiciled and studying at Scottish universities did not
have to pay any fees towards their tuition costs.[10] The Welsh Assembly, because of its limited powers in comparison with their Scottish
counterparts, remained with the caps imposed on the level of tuition as established by the United Kingdom government. However whereas the United
Kingdom government chose to replace means-tested maintenance grants for living expenses whilst at university with a student loan scheme, the Welsh
Assembly re-introduced these for Welsh students either studying in Wales or anywhere else in the United Kingdom"
Regards
Hugh
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gallons perminute
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 09:21 AM |
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You have to be pretty stupid to have a system that charges for education..............................................
that said most of the educated classes have been ripping us of for years, so it is very much in their interest to keep folk uneducated.
A friend gave up law recently because £100k is not enough. When he "bought" in to the profession in the early 80s there were 8000 lawyers
in Scotland, there are now 28,000 according to him.
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blakep82
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 09:36 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by eddbaz
Great, my tax paid here in england is helping to pay for free tuition in Scotland while my kids accure student det here, life is a bitch.
not quite as simple as that, we do pay tax here too you know. plus, remember all that lovely north sea oil and gas that comes into aberdeen? where do
you suppose all that money goes?
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vanepico
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 09:47 AM |
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i for one am enjoying it, £5000 interest free loan to help me build a haynes roadster!
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britishtrident
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 09:58 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
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Originally posted by Benzine
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Originally posted by cliftyhanger
is there anything to stop me buying a house/flat in Scotland, designate it my main home (keeping our current house as a holiday home ) and then
sending them to a Scottish Uni.
I believe you have to have lived in scotland at least 3 years previous to be eligible for free tuition
and you'll still have to make sure they don't want to go to edinburgh or st. andrews - or you'll have a heart attack when yo see the
price of a small flat
A very large proportion of students at St Andrews have always come from english public schools.
Never mind price of renting in the St Andrews area is about to fall when the coalition closes down Leuchars.
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mcerd1
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| posted on 20/9/11 at 10:42 AM |
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Originally posted by britishtrident
Never mind price of renting in the St Andrews area is about to fall when the coalition closes down Leuchars.
I thought they were going to move the army in once the RAF have gone ?
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