shaft
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| posted on 11/4/12 at 07:36 PM |
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200 Sx Turbo... AS anybody used one?
AS per the title really, as anybody done this conversion into a kit?
I'm looking at changing the engine this winter and was originally using a T5 turbo lump, but the engine
i had is beyond economical repair and to be honest the gearbox issue was putting me off. I suppose i see
it as a blessing in disguise really.
The simplicity (in my eyes!  ) of using the Nissan engine and box seems a more viable option?
Cheers Peeps,
Nick.
my opinion might be wrong you know...
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Xtreme Kermit
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| posted on 11/4/12 at 07:49 PM |
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I don't know how easy it is, but I've seen one in a robin hood and one in a viento.
They go like bats out of hell...
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plutos3
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| posted on 11/4/12 at 07:53 PM |
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Nissan CA18det in Dutton
I have a Nissan turbo in my Dutton its a tall engine but it did fit without chopping holes in the bonnet
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| posted on 11/4/12 at 07:59 PM |
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Saab turbo instead! We were going to go down the 200 route but they were all knackered or too expensive 'cause the sellers advertise them as
'drift project' rather than 'knackered old Nissan'. Our Saab 900S donor cost £300, couldn't find many 200sx's for
less than £600 and most of those weren't in a condition to be able to drive home.
Loads of power, will do intergalactic mileage and very easy to tune. Most have led an easy life too.
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austin man
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| posted on 11/4/12 at 08:05 PM |
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DRC INDY 7 has fitted one to his Indy hit 137 down the back straight at Bruntingthorpe plent of pictures in his archive. It is a tall engine and I
know he is running slighty higher off the ground than when he had the pinto fitted
Life is like a bowl of fruit, funny how all the weird looking ones are left alone
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shaft
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| posted on 11/4/12 at 08:16 PM |
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Cheers guys...
I'll have look at the various cars.
Not wishing to offend anyone, but to me the Saab conjures up images of Cloth Caps and Cigars!
Just saying! 
my opinion might be wrong you know...
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ashg
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| posted on 11/4/12 at 08:30 PM |
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I will take you out in mine. the only impression the Saab engine makes are Brown. they really are monsters in a light weight car
Anything With Tits or Wheels Will cost you MONEY!!
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tomgregory2000
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| posted on 11/4/12 at 08:41 PM |
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i did it in my viento, it is very tall and you cant shorten the engine at all
budget to do it is about £2.5-£3k thats from start to finish with aftermarket ecu and a few nice bits
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shaft
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| posted on 11/4/12 at 08:41 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ashg
I will take you out in mine. the only impression the Saab engine makes are Brown. they really are monsters in a light weight car
I can imagine to be honest... it's just the brand of Saab and probably the fact that my Grandad (RIP x) had about 4 of them.
Do they mate to Vauxhall boxes or am i mis-informed?
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RK
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| posted on 11/4/12 at 11:03 PM |
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I kind of hate to bring this up, but my CA18DET bit the dust the other day because it hit the ground, lost oil pressure and seized on the spot. You
can't buy modded sumps for them, and mine just hung down a little too low. Went like crazy just prior to that though. I drove it about 6 times.
Personally, over there, you have such choice, I would avoid it, as tempting as it might be.
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ashg
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| posted on 11/4/12 at 11:14 PM |
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the saab b204 b205 and b234 b235 will mate to a vauxhall omega box and use the saab starter motor. all you need to do is pack out the omega clutch
slave cylinder by 23mm so that it can actuate the saab clutch. the reason for this is that the omega has a dual mass flywheel which is much thicker
than the saab solid flywheel.
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Duncan Grier
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| posted on 2/4/15 at 06:48 PM |
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Few years back now put the s14 version into my la gold pro comp so smaller than most locost
Easy conversion tbh and 7 wires on oem ecu and your off
Conversation cost about 1500 all in but can do the work myself and solid mounted
Uprated rad a must for heavy track use but std other tuan upping the boost to 13psi on stock ecu
Duncan
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StrikerChris
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| posted on 2/4/15 at 07:11 PM |
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I built my striker out of my written off s14a. I was abit out of my depth as far as ecu etc are concerned but pulled it off chopping the standard loom
and ecu in the end.
Its basically a very drivable 250hp bolted in with a gearbox and diff all with nissan reliability and no rolling road setup costs.will pull from 30mph
at tickover in 5th up, or take off like a scalded cat if you let it boost.in my opinion a cheap way to get very reliable power.and if you want more
theres plenty of tweeks to see 500+ if you have a thick wallet.
Chris
Ps as said above it is a tall engine hence I had to make my own nosecone and front bodywork. Wasnt a problem as I was starting from scratch and just
didn't buy them off raw.may be an issue to consider tho
[Edited on 2/4/15 by StrikerChris]
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CNHSS1
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| posted on 2/4/15 at 08:06 PM |
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I have a CA18DET in my scimitar hillclimber. Puts out 360hp.
Theres so much tinternet bollox about these engines its unbelievable. There are as many knackered ones out there as knackered cossie YBs coz they are
cheap to tune.
Tinternet tells of chocalate bearings. This is half true. Most fail when the boost is turned up to 11 by a muppet when the engines not been serviced
or oil changed in 100,000 miles. The bearings are softer so the act as a fuse. If they start to knock, stop immediately and only the bearings will
need changing.
So thats the bad points.
For the good, buy an engine and box youve driven in a car before removing. Many s13s are as rotten as a pear so whole cars are best buy. Remove
engine, box full loom, ecu and propshaft and flog the rest, your donor items will be virtually free.
It is rather tall but not more than say a YB cossie. A completely std one in good health will see 220hp in std fettle with a Horsham chip on std T25
turbo and very little lag, good drivability. A bigger T28 from the s14 200sx, another chip, 444cc injectors from a nissan skyline, a differing afm
from a Z32 300zx and 275+hp is on tap. Pistons need chaning to forged at 280-300hp threshold (450quid) and aftermarket steel rods at 300hp ish at 250
quid a set.
If you want to really make it awesome, lightweight steel flywheel, HKS steel headgasket, 550cc-750cc injectors, ARP headstuds and a pair of hit cams
(tomei, hks or Autosprint) and a bigger turbo such as GT2871R and you get a tough as nails good power band motor that will see nearly 400hp. 500+hp is
do able but the power band narrows just like a YB.
The nissan 16v head design is a peach, flows great and only bare minimum of cleaning up is needed, no need to alter valve sizes at all.
Always use top quality fully synyh oil though, it is critical to lifespan. My personal fave is Mobil1 Motorsport 10/60w (no rebranded long life).
Never lost an engine and have thrashed the balls off mine :-)
Im a fan of them as you may tell :-)
Anyone want pics of modified sumps or more info, pics etc u2u me and will send them next week from my work pc.
"Racing is life, everything else, before or after, is just waiting"---Steve McQueen
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