withersdelivers
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 06:50 AM |
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How does a mac#1 compare with an mk?
Hi all , first off I'm not an owner of any 7 yet . I'm realistically looking at buying next summer, and will probably buy built.
The question I have is ....
I'm always drawn to the mk indy at every show and have almost made my mind up that it is what I want ,BUT..... I think the mac#1 is very similar
and a beautiful 7 .
I have asked the mk owners why I should buy an mk and thought I would ask you guys the same as they look so similar!!so....
Why should I choose a mac#1 ??
Many thanks . Neil.
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40inches
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 07:17 AM |
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As far as the cars are concerned? about the same difference as between a VW and an Audi, not a lot.
Customer service? Do some research in the relevant forums.
I should say that I personally have never had a problem with MK, but you wont find a single complaint about Mac#1
on this site.
[Edited on 25-4-13 by 40inches]
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rdodger
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 08:04 AM |
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The MAC#1 has the same front suspension geometry issues that the MK does.
The above is not what I wrote. I don't know how it's been changed but it has.
My original post was along the lines of the MK having suspect front geometry and that should be taken into account with any potential purchase.
[Edited on 26/4/13 by rdodger]
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big_l
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 08:08 AM |
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Can I ask why you are not looking at the MNR VORTX ??
In my opinion the MK is a better car than the mac 1 for sure.
But neither car compare to the Mnr vortx quality .
I would be happy to take you out in my MNR anytime
And have found Marc / Chris nothing but helpfull. !
Check out my blog  mnrvortxhayabusa@blogspot.com
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withersdelivers
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 08:17 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by big_l
Can I ask why you are not looking at the MNR VORTX ??
In my opinion the MK is a better car than the mac 1 for sure.
But neither car compare to the Mnr vortx quality .
I would be happy to take you out in my MNR anytime
And have found Marc / Chris nothing but helpfull. !
Funny u should say that as that's the other manufacturer that I'm looking at ! Nothing set in stone til I'm ready to buy
Do NMR use stronger components and materials? Or is the finish just a quality look?
Thanks
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rdodger
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 08:35 AM |
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I guess the trouble with threads like this is everyone will tell you what they have is the best.
My 2p is
Customer service. Check out whoever you are considering. Do they deliver what they say they will?
Locality. Nearer the better, to get advice, collect parts etc. My supplier is 5hrs away so I didn't take that advice!
Consult the manufacturer to see if they know any good cars for sale.
Quality and ease of build. Built kits vary a lot. Sometimes buying one that came as a full package will lead to easier ownership.
Look at what you are going to use it for. You may want a full cage and a racier setup if you are mainly doing track days. This may not be very good
as a road car?
If I wanted track 7 then I would look at MNR, MAC#1 and a Sylva Striker.
For the road all would be ok. I'm not such a fan of MK, but build quality and spec is everything so I wouldn't dismiss anything if it met
my requirements.
Pretty much all the 7's in production will go and handle better than anything else you may drive as long as the suspension is setup properly
which can be done by many specialists.
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withersdelivers
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 08:53 AM |
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Sound advice all round so far!
I have noticed people tend to advise you towards what they have.
I have seen a few threads on mk not having the best customer service but have also spoken to a lot of people who can't fault them .i do live
about 5 miles from gkd as I believe they are in Maidstone but I just don't find them as sexy for some reason.same with the Striker!
When the time comes I will be after a barebones track car that is road legal possibly even a bec but again not set in stone.(without the usual bec/cec
debate please lol).ie full cage , wind deflector rather than windscreen , light as possible basically!
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big_l
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 09:29 AM |
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my personal view is that MNR have very good engineering fr instance the front upright / wing mount is all custom maid and maid from there own design.
Chasis is all round tube ! I've never been a fan of bent box steel 
The best quality grp bodywork out there
Resale value ! 3-4 year old cars still doing 9-10 k
Customer service is mint just read this forum and you will see !
Check out my blog mnrvortxhayabusa@blogspot.com
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Alfa145
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 09:54 AM |
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What about others like the GBS Zero and the RoadRunner SR2?
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Not Anumber
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 10:28 AM |
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The MK front caster issue should not be an issue in choosing a car as it is so easilly resolved by replacing the original top wishbones.
MK suggest the self centre issue can be worked around to an extent by altering the toe in. The sure fire way is jut to get hold of a pair of
adjustable top wishbones (mine cost £ 80 ) set these up for an extra degree or two of caster and the self centring is spot on.
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withersdelivers
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 10:54 AM |
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Thanks for that the NMR is sounding good too now!!
As for the gbs zero ,it's not as good looking in my opinion and although I have seen the road runner in the kit car encyclopaedia thingy , I
just don't hear anything about them.
I think it will now come down to which of my top three (mac#1 , mk ,mnR )come up at the time ......best spec , best built ,least money!! Lol
Thanks again for all who have given their advice , ears are still open to anymore thoughts on the subject.
[Edited on 25/4/13 by withersdelivers]
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silky16v
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 12:01 PM |
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Stuart Taylor/Aries Motorsport
Having owned 1 as my 1st ever Seven this was by far the best handling kit i've had (it was factory built) ZX9r powered
my 2nd Seven was a MK Indy, can't fault it did everything i wanted of it but was very basic and had no end of issues trying to contact MK for
spares (R1 powered)
my 3rd and current Seven is a MNR Vortx (ST 170 Zetec) and this very good as an all rounder and for going long distances with it having a car engine
its not quite a nibble at the limit as Stuart Taylor i had, but it makes up for it in all other areas
if i was to buy another it would be a MNR over anything else i quite fancy a ZX14 power Kit
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Slimy38
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 12:25 PM |
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MNR were the best 'performing' at my last Stoneleigh visit, in terms of willingness to help and understand their customers. The guy I
spoke to answered all my questions, including many 'noob' questions. He was also the only one to let me sit in one of their cars, and
described how their MX5 variant made use of donor materials.
The only thing that put me off was the nosecone, it was too bulbous for my liking. But then someone pointed out that they do an alternative nose which
is much better looking in my opinion.
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withersdelivers
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 02:20 PM |
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Nice to hear from someone who has owned a few different sevens , will defo do some deeper digging about the mnR ! Tonight! Lol. My mechanic friend has
said about the st170 power plant being a good way to go!
And on the nose come subject , I was also unsure about it at first and would have gone for the traditional look but the more I look at the
'bulbous' cone , the more I'm liking it! So many choices lol!
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daniel mason
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| posted on 25/4/13 at 04:55 PM |
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just buy a used caterham. you will not lose a single penny on it i dont think! very nice csars to drive unless your a big guy!
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turbo911
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| posted on 26/4/13 at 05:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by rdodger
The MAC#1 has the same front suspension geometry issues that the MK does.
utter rubbish !!!
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rdodger
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| posted on 26/4/13 at 07:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by turbo911
quote:
Originally posted by rdodger
The MAC#1 has the same front suspension geometry issues that the MK does.
utter rubbish !!!
Yes it is! I didn't write that! How the hell did that get changed?
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turbo911
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| posted on 26/4/13 at 08:09 PM |
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???????WAC
[Edited on 26/4/13 by turbo911]
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Not Anumber
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| posted on 26/4/13 at 08:31 PM |
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If I was building from scratch and had the space i'd build a Haynes, only thing i wouldnt be sure of is whether to grasp the nettle and weld my
own chassis or buy a ready fabricated chassi from Talon or one of the others.
Though the Haynes is a open source design there is an impressively high level of support from the builder community which IMHO makes it as equally
viable to build as the kits.
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Tazzzzman1
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| posted on 27/4/13 at 07:05 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by withersdelivers
Thanks for that the NMR is sounding good too now!!
As for the gbs zero ,it's not as good looking in my opinion and although I have seen the road runner in the kit car encyclopaedia thingy , I
just don't hear anything about them.
[Edited on 25/4/13 by withersdelivers]
The reason you don't hear much about Roadrunner is that they are fairly new to the kit scene, but quality is superb, as is service from them and
in my eye one of the best looking 7's out there (although I'd say that as I own one... ). Total cost of my build was £8K but budget for
£10K+
Have a look at the March edition of Complete kit car magazine and you'll see mine and hopefully agree
Hope I've converted you
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eddbaz
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| posted on 27/4/13 at 07:48 PM |
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I built and still own my mk Indy r, but if I was in the market for a car now the roadrunner sr2 would be my choice.
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RK
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| posted on 27/4/13 at 10:11 PM |
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What? No "discussion" on how you plan to propel this projectile? You can't talk about chassis' without an argument on the
engine! It's not allowed!
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40inches
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| posted on 28/4/13 at 08:17 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RK
What? No "discussion" on how you plan to propel this projectile? You can't talk about chassis' without an argument on the
engine! It's not allowed!
That's because there isn't an argument RK. Boat anchor or Bike engine? 
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withersdelivers
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| posted on 28/4/13 at 08:39 AM |
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Haha I love the way cec/bec debate always worms its way into a thread so lets add some fuel to the fire....... St170 or r1?? For track use Mostly.
Oh and in response to tazman , yes the road runner does indeed look very nice but as I said first off , there is a very small chance of me building
from scratch.so availability is more the issue.
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loggyboy
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| posted on 28/4/13 at 08:57 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by withersdelivers
Haha I love the way cec/bec debate always worms its way into a thread so lets add some fuel to the fire....... St170 or r1?? For track use Mostly.
More jammed in than wormed.... lol
Mistral Motorsport
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