bob
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| posted on 1/11/02 at 11:36 PM |
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WINTER LAY UP
I know some of the classic car owners drain oil and water and even take the wheels off leaving the cars on axle stands.
I dont think i'd go that far,but does anybody bother?
I may when running use mine all year once i've got hood and doors,whats the score with people who tuck em away in the cold wet months?.
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johnston
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| posted on 2/11/02 at 06:27 PM |
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wat ever u do dont let the suspension sit in droop the oil all goes into the resovoier and then seperates leaving u wit fucked shocks
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chrisg
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| posted on 2/11/02 at 08:18 PM |
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I don't drain the oil or water but I do take the wheels off and use "winter wheels"- they're made for caravans, a sort of plate attached to a
stand, you bolt the hubto the plate and the stand sits on the garage floor, as Johnson says it prevents problems with the shocks.
I also cover the car with a soft cover and also leave the windows down an inch for air circulation.
You've just reminded me that I ought to go and do it!!!
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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chrisg
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| posted on 2/11/02 at 08:20 PM |
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Oh and wedge the clutch down with a bit of wood and leave the handbreak off.
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Stu16v
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| posted on 2/11/02 at 11:14 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by chrisg
I also cover the car with a soft cover and also leave the windows down an inch for air circulation.
Respect! A Locost with wind up windows 
Dont just build it.....make it!
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chrisg
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| posted on 3/11/02 at 01:54 PM |
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My "other " car stu!
but then you knew that didn't you?
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Macca
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| posted on 3/11/02 at 02:06 PM |
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Chris,
How does the "winter wheel" protect the shockers?
If you bolt the plate to the hubs doesn't that still mean that the shocks will be under load, or have I got the concept all to cock?
Col
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chrisg
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| posted on 3/11/02 at 05:11 PM |
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Thats right macca, you've got it all to cock!
scroll up and look at johnstons post, they're used to prevent the shockers drooping, thats what's bad for them you see, not being compressed.
this means you can take off the wheels so that your tyres don't get a flat bit at the bottom!
Also makes it quite difficult for the lads in baseball caps to have it away with your pride and joy.
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Macca
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| posted on 3/11/02 at 06:53 PM |
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Would it not be easier/cheaper to just throw a rough set of rims with sh!t tyres on?
Col.
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bob
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| posted on 3/11/02 at 07:17 PM |
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Or stand bones on axle stands
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chrisg
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| posted on 3/11/02 at 10:32 PM |
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Bloody Heathens!!!!!!
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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stephen_gusterson
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| posted on 6/11/02 at 07:51 PM |
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my mates at work recon they are gonna lay up their bikes this winter in giant plastic bags that have the air sucked out by a vacuum cleaner!
atb
steve
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geoff shep
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| posted on 6/12/02 at 09:39 PM |
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Had mine laid up for a while - didn't have any problems with the tyres but disconnect battery and keep it charged, perhaps even keep it from getting
too cold. Bring it inside - that'll be popular.
Protect things from damp eg those chromed headlamp shells - the chrome's not too thick and flakes easily. Waxoil any bare or susceptible looking
bits - not the discs though! Make sure there's enough anti-freeze in the water - both rad and washer. Replace the brake fluid after it's been
standing for a long time - brake fluids hygroscopic you know - I think that means it absorbs water.
Some people like to squirt a bit of oil into the cylinders just to protect the barrels. Also should have lubed the HT leads as they become
welded to the spark plugs. Also had a very minor leak (almost insignificant I thought) from the brake master cylinder. A year later it had stripped
all the paint fom the bottom of the engine bay.
Oh, and reclaim the tax and declare it SORN.
[Edited on 6/12/02 by geoff shep]
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Viper
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| posted on 6/12/02 at 10:40 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by johnston
wat ever u do dont let the suspension sit in droop the oil all goes into the resovoier and then seperates leaving u wit fucked shocks
Realy?? so why doesn't that happen when the shocks are in there box sitting on the shelf waiting to be sold???
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bsilly
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| posted on 6/12/02 at 10:56 PM |
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cos they aint got no weight pulling them down...thats why when yer buy new shoks yerv gotta extend them and then push them back in a couple of
times...
mainly digger drivin me
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Viper
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| posted on 6/12/02 at 11:54 PM |
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oh right , oh yeah, ok..so when you bought your dampers they weren't fully extended? i would send em back mate coz if they don't fully
extend by themselveds then the rebound ain't working
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Stu16v
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| posted on 7/12/02 at 12:48 PM |
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Err most shockers I have bought have been compressed when packaged and have never extended by themselves......
Gas filled ones *might* extend on their own, but Avo's etc will need to be pulled out.
P.s. the fact that they dont is the rebound.......
Dont just build it.....make it!
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chrisg
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| posted on 7/12/02 at 02:06 PM |
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Forced to agree with Stu here, shocks always come compressed, when installed the piston will be in the centre of it's travel - pulling or pushing to
either extreme is whats bad for em, the piston contacts the seal on full droop.
Cheers
Chris
Note to all: I really don't know when to leave well alone. I tried to get clever with the mods, then when they gave me a lifeline to see the
error of my ways, I tried to incite more trouble via u2u. So now I'm banned, never to return again. They should have done it years ago!
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Viper
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| posted on 7/12/02 at 04:12 PM |
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Each year we send our shocks back to Ohlins to have them checked and any changes to the valving they are allways at there max extension when we get
them back. The rebound is the shock pushing back to its original position if it doesn't then you either have no rebound or very little (even with our
shocks set at the minimum rebound they still push back)
Pulling or pushing to either extreme? on compression (when you are likely to damage a piston) you should have a bump stop and at full droop/extension
you will have (inside the shock) shimms and a stop washer that will prevent damage.
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bsilly
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| posted on 7/12/02 at 04:29 PM |
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shocks that dont extend eh......send em back eh....you make me laff.. i bet your tyres had air in them when you bought them too...........hee
hehhehhee its funny
mainly digger drivin me
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johnston
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| posted on 8/12/02 at 12:14 PM |
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most of ones we sell in work are held compressed and there a pain in the arse when the clamp comes of and the piston comes through the bloody box
u are also supposed to pump the shock before it gets fitted to "prime" it and get the fluid round the valves and stuff
if you let them droop the oil goes into the resovoir and it seperates it probably doesnt happen to new shocks goes the oil hasnt been pumped through
tiny wee holes countless times and went through a cold>heat>cold cycle hundreds of times
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Viper
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| posted on 8/12/02 at 01:04 PM |
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well if you are worried about this then why not put your axle stands under the wishbones so the don't droop.
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Stu16v
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| posted on 8/12/02 at 01:07 PM |
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Viper, I'm sorry to say this mate, but rebound is the resistance agianst being pushed back to full extension. As I have said before, some gas charged
(or spring assisted towing type) shocks will extend on their own. But whether it is gas filled or not, the speed in which it can be pulled from fully
compressed to full extension is the rebound rate. If there is no or very little resistance felt, THEN you have problems with the rebound.
With too much rebound, if soft springs are used with dampers that are unsuitable or adjusted too stiffly, over some surfaces the suspension will pump
itself down, because the spring cannot overcome the rebound (the resistance to extend)to get the suspension back to its original position before the
next bump is struck.
Dont just build it.....make it!
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bsilly
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| posted on 8/12/02 at 09:41 PM |
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full circle ....eventually....
mainly digger drivin me
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Stu16v
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| posted on 8/12/02 at 11:18 PM |
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Just cant beat a donut.......
Dont just build it.....make it!
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