a4gom
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| posted on 25/1/09 at 10:16 AM |
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bec engine cradle / mounts
I'm fitting a R1 to a narrow bodied westfield, intended making a top and bottom cradle from 1" tube as seems common practice.
I've now sat my engine in where I want it to go and it looks to me like I don't really need to make a top and bottom cradle, all but one
mounting is now within 4 or 5"of an existing chassis member so I intend to make up some small brackets attached directly to the chassis. Is this
good practice, any reason why I shouldn't?
I was intending to use some of these at each of
the six mounting points, they are only 20mm long is that a problem, should I be looking for some longer ones?
I have a selection of 1" box and tube, I'm weight concious but don't want failures, would 1" box with approx 1.3mm wall be
strong enough to cope with weight / vibration or should I be using 2mm wall?
Appologies, lots of questions but I know there will be some guru on here.
[Edited on 25/1/09 by a4gom]
Andy
Perfect planning prevents pi$$ poor performance!
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Steve Hignett
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| posted on 25/1/09 at 10:18 AM |
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That will be fine, but how do you intend to attach those "bushes" to the mini-brackets?
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jacko
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| posted on 25/1/09 at 10:26 AM |
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This is how i made the cradle on roadrunners car if you make a cradle it helps stiffen the chassis have a look in his photos zx9r engine
jacko
 
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mark chandler
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| posted on 25/1/09 at 10:41 AM |
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My efforts in the same vien.
I used Range rover Polybush panhard rod bushes
 
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mark chandler
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| posted on 25/1/09 at 10:42 AM |
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the bushes
 
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lsdweb
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| posted on 25/1/09 at 10:53 AM |
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Here's my R1 inmy wide Westfield - no cradle as such - trying to keep the weight down. There are small brackets between the engine and the
chassis rail at the rear and the removable 'bar' at the front.
 
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a4gom
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| posted on 25/1/09 at 02:21 PM |
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my idea was similar to that of lsdweb, a bar across the front of the engine to pick up the original front top right mount, a bracket direct to the
bulk head for the original front top left mount, s mount similar to lsdwebs top back mount and something in the same vain as mark chandlers top mount
for my bottom back mount.
The bushes I proposed would be inside 1" tube welded to the brackets.
Hope that makes sense.
I'm not over worried about strengthening the chassis, it worked ok with my old engine in and that was on two standard rubber mounts. I'm
not saying it wouldn't make it better but if I manage to get my driving and everything else on the car up to the the standard of the currecnt
chassis I can always add some stiffness!
Andy
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lsdweb
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| posted on 9/2/09 at 08:02 PM |
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And here with all mounts completed.
 
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lsdweb
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 08:57 PM |
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And the bottom mounts
 
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lsdweb
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 09:00 PM |
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And here
 
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Peteff
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| posted on 18/2/09 at 11:22 PM |
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For the sake of a few more ounces I'd join the bottom mounts both sides together with another bar between them to make it a bit more rigid.
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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lsdweb
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| posted on 20/2/09 at 01:05 PM |
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Thanks Pete
We did consider this - I'm tempted to leave it as is for now and see if there's any flex in there when it's running.
Ta
Wyn
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Blackbird
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| posted on 22/2/09 at 07:09 AM |
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Nice work.
And just to contribute another one for future searching, I'll post mine too -
I threaded the ones on the transmission and put bolts directly into it.
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