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nick205

posted on 14/3/09 at 09:22 PM Reply With Quote
Brake line lock - OK for MoT?

If you replaced the handbrake with a brake line lock would it be acceptable come MoT time?






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blakep82

posted on 14/3/09 at 09:24 PM Reply With Quote
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tomgregory2000

posted on 14/3/09 at 09:30 PM Reply With Quote
2nd nope
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24vseven

posted on 14/3/09 at 09:33 PM Reply With Quote
the handbrake for mot and construction and use ect states it must be of a mechanical nature ie rods or cables

this is based on that in your case useing a line lock what hapens should the system fail ie a weaping seal ect

sorry if the explanation is a little crap but no doubt someone will be along to explain it better soon

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nick205

posted on 14/3/09 at 09:58 PM Reply With Quote
As I thought

Quite like the idea of idying up the tunnel top and fitting something more discrete.






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trikerneil

posted on 14/3/09 at 11:00 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by 24vseven
the handbrake for mot and construction and use ect states it must be of a mechanical nature ie rods or cables

this is based on that in your case useing a line lock what hapens should the system fail ie a weaping seal ect

sorry if the explanation is a little crap but no doubt someone will be along to explain it better soon


How does the VW button on the dash "handbrake" work to fit those requirements?
I'm not being pedantic, I was just wondering how they work and if the idea is adaptable.

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hearbear

posted on 14/3/09 at 11:01 PM Reply With Quote
electric handbrake actuator?
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clairetoo

posted on 14/3/09 at 11:18 PM Reply With Quote
Just wondering.............how do you `ease` the handbrake off on a hill start , with one of those new fangled electromagnetic handbrake doo dah's ?
Surely they are either off or on with nothing inbetween ?





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mistergrumpy

posted on 14/3/09 at 11:21 PM Reply With Quote
Surely you'd take the car to the biting point then take the brake off as usual? You don't ease a handbrake off? It's on or it's off.






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prawnabie

posted on 14/3/09 at 11:46 PM Reply With Quote
On renaults with leccy handbrake there is a motor with cables under the boot floor. the computer recognises biting point via a clutch pedal switch and relases the handbrake before the car stalls.

IIRC correctly, you can have any mechanical / hydraulic assembly you want for a handbrake as long as it is a seperate system to the footbrake. I had a hydraulic handbrake on my mini for a few years with seperate spot calipers on the KAD rear brakes without any MOT problems.

Shaun

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BenB

posted on 15/3/09 at 01:18 AM Reply With Quote
As just said, the problem is surely that line locks work on the same system as the normal brakes so you have no backup if the main system goes down.....
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matt_claydon

posted on 15/3/09 at 02:14 AM Reply With Quote
A handbrake has to be 'mechanical'; anything hydraulic is not allowed as pressure can reduce over time due to leakage at various seals leading to release of the brake.
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Mark G

posted on 15/3/09 at 08:48 AM Reply With Quote
The handbrake must use 'mechanical energy' so as said in an earlier post it'll need to be either rods or cables. You can use a hand brake with 'stored energy' i.e hydraulics or pneumatics if you wish but it must work in the oposite direction i.e. the hydraulics hold the hand brake off, not on like usual.
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britishtrident

posted on 15/3/09 at 10:35 AM Reply With Quote
No only is a line not considered as a hand brake it is illegal to have one fitted on a road car. The traffic police are well aware of line locks and tend come down heavily on them.





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Mark Allanson

posted on 15/3/09 at 10:53 AM Reply With Quote
What would be the advantage of a line lock?





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chrism

posted on 15/3/09 at 11:58 AM Reply With Quote
They tend to be used in drag racing for burnouts, but in the front circuit.

Slam on the brakes then turn lock on and you front brakes stay locked on to help with your burnout.





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Mark G

posted on 15/3/09 at 09:04 PM Reply With Quote
or if you've ever seen terry grant doing his stunt demo's when he gets his cars spinning in circles and then gets out whilst they're still spinning he just locks the inner front wheel.
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stevegough

posted on 25/4/09 at 04:46 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nick205
As I thought

Quite like the idea of idying up the tunnel top and fitting something more discrete.


Why not fit a 'under the dash handbrake like the old Mk one cortina had - We have a ford ranger 4WD at work - they also have the h/b under the dash.

I'm having a go at fitting mine on the passenger side of the tunnel.

There's many ways to skin a rat.

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