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hobzy

posted on 19/4/09 at 10:09 AM Reply With Quote
kids in a bucket seat

Now I am sure there was a thread on this before but I can't find it.

My daughter is starting to get interested in coming out in the Indy, but what are the legalities of her using a 4 point harness? her current booster is too wide for the fibreglass seat, and because the lap belts go over the seat sides she will submarine without one ( crotch belts would sort that and the harness buckle will take them) . If i can't buy something to fit, can I make one out of one of those seat foam kits?

She trail fits height wise sitting on some loose padding. The base of the seat is 14" across and she is 115cm tall. Any ideas peeps?






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Worzey

posted on 19/4/09 at 10:16 AM Reply With Quote
I managed to buy a very slim child seat from Halfords for £5.

I wouldn't dream of using it in the tin top but in the kit with a high-sided bucket and 4 point harness it's ideal.

It's very narrow and fits a tight GRP seat that I only just manage to fit in.

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MakeEverything

posted on 19/4/09 at 10:16 AM Reply With Quote
Get a coupleof tins of expanding foam filler (from the pund shop) in a couple of bin bags (also the pound shop), and make a booster to fit. You can then put it in a cushion cover to make it look a bit better. It will fit her individually as well, so should be a bit more comfortable than a standard booster.

The only problem is getting her to sit still while the foam moulds itself! Sweets may also be needed!





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hobzy

posted on 19/4/09 at 10:18 AM Reply With Quote
But will it be legal??? I quite like the idea of making one to fit as it will probably fit better and bring her shoulders forward too.

Will pop to shalfords for a looksee too. Ta.






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Worzey

posted on 19/4/09 at 10:20 AM Reply With Quote
Link to Halfords seat that I got:

Linky





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iank

posted on 19/4/09 at 10:42 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by hobzy
But will it be legal??? I quite like the idea of making one to fit as it will probably fit better and bring her shoulders forward too.

Will pop to shalfords for a looksee too. Ta.


No it wouldn't be legal, in theory you can't even shave 1mm off an approved seat to make it fit and remain legal.

DarrenW did some letter writing with the DoT and they refuse to give any exemptions despite the law being written for lap belts.

See http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=60021
and http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=62301
and http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=71233
and http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=106713





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MakeEverything

posted on 19/4/09 at 11:03 AM Reply With Quote
But (from memory) i dont recall any requirements for an E marked booster or other demarkation, only the requirement for children under a certain age or height to have one?





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jlparsons

posted on 19/4/09 at 12:12 PM Reply With Quote
got to be honest, I shalln't ever be taking my daughter in mine. The car itself is just not safe enough. If I stop and think about it for long enough, I could see myself reaching the conclusion that it's not safe enough for her dad either... but less of that.
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iank

posted on 19/4/09 at 12:36 PM Reply With Quote
The legislation requires "Correct child restraint MUST be used" where correct is defined as a type approved seat.

i.e. UN ECE Regulation 44.03 (or subsequent) type approval standard and be marked with a label (showing an "E" and "44.03" or ".03" and the Group number, or weight range of child, for which it is designed.

You're unlikely to be questioned anyway as I doubt the police will have the legislation instantly to hand, but after an accident is the worst time for insurance/plod to get involved in questions about regulations.





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hobzy

posted on 19/4/09 at 12:42 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by iank
quote:
Originally posted by hobzy
But will it be legal??? I quite like the idea of making one to fit as it will probably fit better and bring her shoulders forward too.

Will pop to shalfords for a looksee too. Ta.


No it wouldn't be legal, in theory you can't even shave 1mm off an approved seat to make it fit and remain legal.

DarrenW did some letter writing with the DoT and they refuse to give any exemptions despite the law being written for lap belts.

See http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=60021
and http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=62301
and http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=71233
and http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/viewthread.php?tid=106713




Cheers for those links - search came up with nowt for me despite using the word booster and child!

Just been to halfords and they had none in stock






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MK chippy

posted on 19/4/09 at 01:22 PM Reply With Quote
Alright mate,

save the money and get second gear sorted!






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hobzy

posted on 19/4/09 at 05:12 PM Reply With Quote
I don't have any money remember I just gave it all to you!






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owelly

posted on 19/4/09 at 09:46 PM Reply With Quote
My boy loves going for a spin...







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Vindi_andy

posted on 20/4/09 at 10:39 AM Reply With Quote
Got a 4 seater and with the back seats being flat got no problem fitting booster seats although only 1 child needs it now
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hobzy

posted on 20/4/09 at 12:26 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by owelly
My boy loves going for a spin...





What width are those seats, and if they are 14" what booster is that please!






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