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carpmart

posted on 12/5/11 at 12:30 PM Reply With Quote
VX220

Has anyone got or had a VX220? How do they compare to kit and will I be disappointed by anything using it as an every day hack? How are they in the winter, usable?





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jossey

posted on 12/5/11 at 01:12 PM Reply With Quote
ive been in one for track days and its nice but didnt fair well against the lotus elise in same class.

was hell fast though.

just cornering was crap.

maybe the driver or tyres but was a little over excited on bends.





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FazerBob

posted on 12/5/11 at 01:30 PM Reply With Quote
they're not bad, but you will always want it's much better sibling, an Elise, instead





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designer

posted on 12/5/11 at 01:46 PM Reply With Quote
Agree.

I prefer the looks but the Lotus is better.

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Confused but excited.

posted on 12/5/11 at 01:59 PM Reply With Quote
Hasn't Fozzie got one?
U2U maybe.





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MikeFellows

posted on 12/5/11 at 01:59 PM Reply With Quote
I ran one as a daily driver for almost 3 years, ended up at 320bhp.

are you looking at a 2.2 or a turbo?

Thought I would add some generic things incase people pick up on the thread later.

the 2.2 produces around 150bhp as standard compared to the 200bhp of the turbo. however there is around 100kg difference in weight making real world performance very similar

both share identical parts to a point. the rear clam shell on the 2.2 is different and gives a bigger boot.

Parts from Vauxhall are expensive and usually from other cars work out what its from and buy the alternative vx220.org.uk is a good source of info also type116.com

dropping the wheel sizes from 17" all round to 16" fronts (like the lotus) transforms the car, that and 888's was the single biggest improvement on the car.

they all leak and adjusting the windows is a nightmare, they all have wind noise, on most the blowers/heaters dont work and wasps/shit/dust come through them all the time.

the ABS is dog poo and is a hazard in rain, I turned mine off and added a switch to the electrics when i sold it as the buyer wanted to be able to turn it back on.


they are blisteringly quick, I bought my VX brand new and chose it over the lotus purely for the turbo and the fact the z20let is pretty much bullet proof and mods are cheap (to a point)

I stripped mine down after 3,000 miles and rebuilt the engine with JE pistons, Forged Rods, Schrick Cams, lightened the flywheel, had the cylinder head ported and polised, uprated the turbo/manifold, 4 pot brakes 16/17 wheels and 888's and Plans/Quaife LSD

I only found 2 things quicker on track a Atom and a gugeleimi (god knows how you spell it) racing mk1 exige with 380bhp

in my opinion they are exception value for money seeing as though you can get a good example for £10k







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Fozzie

posted on 12/5/11 at 02:15 PM Reply With Quote
Yep...we have a 220 Turbo ... owned it for 5 years now......

It is much better than the N/A version .... and having driven and knowing the Elise,
the 220 (Turbo) is a far more sorted car ....and faster ..... but if you are a 'label' freak
you will prefer the Elise ... if you know your cars.....where performance is more important
than the 'label' .... 220 Turbo every time ....

The 220 was designed by the Lotus designer in the same 'stable' .... so it is just the label you pay for....

The downside, is they can be a bit twitchy in 'slippy' conditions ..as can the Elise of course, but if you like the feel
of 'proper' driving you wont be disappointed ....

Have a look at the website for vx220 owners .... at

http://www.vx220.org.uk

and have a good read of the forums...

Fozzie





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scootz

posted on 12/5/11 at 02:19 PM Reply With Quote
I've owned an Elise, Exige and VX220. All were NA and all were fantastic cars.

I'd rate the Exige as being in a different league to the other two, however the Elise and the VX220 were pretty much eeksy-peeksy. The Elises handling was probably better 'out of the box', but I reckon that with a little bit of work the VX could be made to go, turn and stop as well as an Elise.

IMHO, if you're not a 'badge-snob' then the VX220 is by far the best value for money. It's the one I would go for if I decided that I wanted to go back to any of them.





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Fozzie

posted on 12/5/11 at 02:21 PM Reply With Quote
Just read Mikes post....and can say that we have had no leaky windows, and the heater was ok.....
but other half did a few mods, and it is now much better ....

So I guess in that respect it is the luck of the draw ....





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scootz

posted on 12/5/11 at 02:39 PM Reply With Quote
My VX had leaky windows... I had to leave small tuppers on the sill to collect the rainwater if it was left outside!

Mind you, the Exige let water in from the footwell area!





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carpmart

posted on 12/5/11 at 02:47 PM Reply With Quote
Seems like the tubby is the one to go for.

Whats a reasonable price for a good car?
What's the major downside of the tubby of the NA car?
I hear the turbo is a little 'softer' is this true?
Compared to the ZX12 Striker I have am I likely to be really disappointed?
How many ponies can be realized with minor mods like mapping and running a little more boost? What boost are they running as standard?

Thanks for all the replies so far!





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posted on 12/5/11 at 02:52 PM Reply With Quote
I also had vx220 turbo.... 258bhp with a good slice of torque 280ft/lb

I used it every day.... Never tied of the acceleration and handling... Again I had 16/17 wheels and it does help soo much. Gaz shocks allow you to get a little more to your liking... Along with spending time getting geometry setup in a way you like.

I sold mine to build the r1 powered Haynes roadster I am building now... I hope it gives me as many thrills as the vx220 did.

Few pics and a video to wet your appetite




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mcerd1

posted on 12/5/11 at 02:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I've owned an Elise, Exige and VX220. All were NA and all were fantastic cars.

are there any cars you havn't owned ??





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MikeRJ

posted on 12/5/11 at 02:55 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by carpmart
Seems like the tubby is the one to go for.



'Turbo' please. Had far too much of the "tubby" thing when I had my MR2, makes me cringe when I hear someone above toddler age using the word in this context.

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carpmart

posted on 12/5/11 at 03:02 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by MikeRJ
quote:
Originally posted by carpmart
Seems like the tubby is the one to go for.



'Turbo' please. Had far too much of the "tubby" thing when I had my MR2, makes me cringe when I hear someone above toddler age using the word in this context.


Appolgies - I feel suitable reprimanded and will be compliant moving forward





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scootz

posted on 12/5/11 at 03:19 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I've owned an Elise, Exige and VX220. All were NA and all were fantastic cars.

are there any cars you havn't owned ??


Yes... loads!





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02GF74

posted on 17/8/11 at 06:53 PM Reply With Quote
... what are they like for space inside, will a tallish driver (let's say 6 ft 1) fit and be comfortable to drive?






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big_wasa

posted on 17/8/11 at 07:08 PM Reply With Quote
Would also like to know this at 6'3"
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carpmart

posted on 17/8/11 at 07:14 PM Reply With Quote
I've owned one for 3 months now and love it!

6'1" should be OK, 6'3" may be a little tight Warren!





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scootz

posted on 17/8/11 at 07:46 PM Reply With Quote
I'm 5'11" and it's very comfy once inside and has loads of room.

It's just a complete PITA (literally) to get in or out of with the hood on!





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mangogrooveworkshop

posted on 17/8/11 at 08:04 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I've owned an Elise, Exige and VX220. All were NA and all were fantastic cars.

are there any cars you havn't owned ??




JUST THE ONES HE HASNT BOUGHT YET

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Ninehigh

posted on 18/8/11 at 02:24 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
quote:
Originally posted by mcerd1
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
I've owned an Elise, Exige and VX220. All were NA and all were fantastic cars.

are there any cars you havn't owned ??


Yes... loads!


The one's he's stolen he hasn't owned!






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