Donkeymatt
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| posted on 15/1/07 at 10:05 PM |
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R1 vs. Hayabusa Vid
Don't know if anyone has seen this - scroll down and click on the hayabusa vs. R1 video. I was going to get an R1 block when I start my build,
but this might have just changed my mind!!!!!
What do you think?!
http://www.uponone.com/sortvideos-speed-viewed.php
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stevec
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| posted on 15/1/07 at 10:18 PM |
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If you've got the the extra 1.5 / 2 grand for the motor, go for it.
Steve.
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 15/1/07 at 10:51 PM |
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You need to remember though that the R1 was never built for top speed, if it had the same fairing etc as the busa it would be a lot closer top end
speed.
Back to their relative merits in a BEC, the busa is the ultimate engine IMHO, but as mentioned it is expensive. If you do the maths of power/weight
for an R1 car which like for like will be 30kgs lighter than a busa, then there's not as big a difference as you'd think.
Ive driven a couple of busa BECs plus my own R1 BEC, and although there is a difference, its not a lot and the busa only really begins to show any
significant advantage the other side of 100mph. Indeed there's a significantly bigger performance difference between my old blade engine and the
R1 Ive now got installed, than there is between an R1 and the busa.
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JoelP
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| posted on 15/1/07 at 10:53 PM |
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plus the fact that new r1s arent that far behind the busa in terms of power at leasy, and i heard a rumour about a cheap turbo kit for the R1. 
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fesycresy
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| posted on 16/1/07 at 08:32 AM |
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I watched Chris at Llandow and his mate in his turbo busa westfield.
After seeing the lap times, I wouldn't bother with the busa 
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The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.
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Donkeymatt
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| posted on 16/1/07 at 08:41 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by ChrisGamlin
Indeed there's a significantly bigger performance difference between my old blade engine and the R1 Ive now got installed, than there is between
an R1 and the busa.
Do you mean that the old blade engine had better performance than the R1?
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zxrlocost
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| posted on 16/1/07 at 09:52 AM |
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No
blade engines are good but not as powerful as r1
r1 £ for £ is the best
hayabusa picks up better in the gears but thats not to say the r1 doesnt
looking at the two bikes racing isnt a comparison for the cars mate
chris
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BenB
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| posted on 16/1/07 at 10:36 AM |
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Why not go the whole hog and fit a ZX14
Just have to find one first!!!! I expect most people who crash their ZX14s don't leave much to be salvaged (them or the bike  ).
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richard thomas
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| posted on 16/1/07 at 03:47 PM |
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Shouldn't say this but....
Been in an R1 bec and there's not much in it between it and mine.
Except the price tag.
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 16/1/07 at 07:56 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Donkeymatt
quote:
Originally posted by ChrisGamlin
Indeed there's a significantly bigger performance difference between my old blade engine and the R1 Ive now got installed, than there is between
an R1 and the busa.
Do you mean that the old blade engine had better performance than the R1?
Nope, what I meant to say is that if upgrading from blade to R1 to busa, the performance jump from upgrading from the blade to the R1 is bigger than
jumping from an R1 to a busa, ie, relative performance:
blade.........................R1.......busa
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ChrisGamlin
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| posted on 16/1/07 at 07:58 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by fesycresy
I watched Chris at Llandow and his mate in his turbo busa westfield.
After seeing the lap times, I wouldn't bother with the busa
Hehe, to be fair you never really get the benefit of big power at Llandow though, being such a short circuit.
Do you remember any lap times out of interest?
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