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Duncan_P

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:07 PM Reply With Quote
Your all a bunch of *&%$£"

As per title, you BEC lot are a pain in the ass.

I spend a significant amount of time plannnig my build and eventually get around to starting. But then it started, you keep posting video links and performance stats of your BEC and its polluting my mind.

All i wanted was a nice simple zetec build, and now 'you lot' have me seriously considering changing tack and changing to a BEC.

I hold you all fully responsible for torturing me, you bunch of so and so's.


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mike smith1

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:09 PM Reply With Quote
Look into our eyes not around our eyes, look straight into the eyes!

BEC's Got Ya!

[Edited on 28/2/07 by mike smith1]






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worX

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:11 PM Reply With Quote
(In the tune of the old Skol beer advert.......)
BEC BEC BEC BEC, BEC BEC BEC BEC.
BEC BEC BEC BEC, BEC BEC BEC BEC.
and if anyone's forgotten the words, as per the advert - the next line goes:
BEC BEC BEC BEC, BEC BEC BEC BEC.







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millemg

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:13 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mike smith1
Look into our eyes not around our eyes, look straight into the eyes!




3...2...1...............You're back in the room.......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kynfsaZaVVo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LufBNhJEO60





[Edited on 28/2/07 by millemg]

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chris_harris_

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:15 PM Reply With Quote
It happened to me too, i was all for a nice simple cheap live axle cross flow job, now three axles later i'm building an r1 de dion axled bec!!!!!!

I hate (read love) you all!!!





Regards Chris

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Duncan_P

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:21 PM Reply With Quote
I should have known that posting this would have only made matters worse......

I hope your all proud of yourselves

[Edited on 28/2/07 by Duncan_P]

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TimC

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:23 PM Reply With Quote
In the interest of balance....

I'm building one, but wouldn't for the road.

Mostly as I have no self control!






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ch1ll1

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:25 PM Reply With Quote
you might even find going the BEC is cheaper






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Duncan_P

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:27 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ch1ll1
you might even find going the BEC is cheaper


I dont want to here it

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millemg

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:29 PM Reply With Quote
Just think of a comparison.....

racing car / taxi ?


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BenB

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:32 PM Reply With Quote
Similar thing happened to me.... Went to the kit car show determined to buy a STM kit for a Live axle Xflow Locost, came back having paid a deposit for a IRS ST1100 BEC Locost.... Oh well

quote:
Originally posted by chris_harris_
It happened to me too, i was all for a nice simple cheap live axle cross flow job, now three axles later i'm building an r1 de dion axled bec!!!!!!

I hate (read love) you all!!!

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russbost

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:37 PM Reply With Quote
Surely bec has to be simpler than a lumbering great zetec & type 9! At least the gearshifts simple!





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russbost

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:38 PM Reply With Quote
Now all you need to do is put the engine at the right end!

(Takes cover)





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Duncan_P

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:41 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by russbost
Now all you need to do is put the engine at the right end!



I have enough tortured sleepness nights at the moment without adding to it

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andrew.carwithen

posted on 28/2/07 at 05:46 PM Reply With Quote
Yup, I started out with the intention of using the pinto that was already fitted when I bought my Avon part-built. (Nice and simple and straight forward.)
But then, I went out in Lightning's 'blade powered Avon (when he still had it.)
A few days later, I was still wandering around aimlessly, grinning insanely muttering 'I just gotta get me one of those...' and the rest is history...

Andy.

[Edited on 28/2/07 by andrew.carwithen]

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carlgeldard

posted on 28/2/07 at 06:05 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ch1ll1
you might even find going the BEC is cheaper



Ye Right thats what you think. The first car I had was CEC and they say you learn by your mistakes.

Carl






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ch1ll1

posted on 28/2/07 at 06:09 PM Reply With Quote
my first one was a bec, still cost loads
2nd one im building now is a zetec and just spent £1000 on inlet manifold and ecu

can get a good gsxr lump for that !

[Edited on 28/2/07 by ch1ll1]






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shortie

posted on 28/2/07 at 06:28 PM Reply With Quote
Mmmmm....paddleshift, lovely racing car feel!!
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bodger

posted on 28/2/07 at 06:43 PM Reply With Quote
Yep they did it to me too ...... b*stards!!
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David Jenkins

posted on 28/2/07 at 06:43 PM Reply With Quote
I keep advocating moderation, saying how calm and collected I am as I drive around in my nice crossflow-powered car....
...but, if I'm ever unfortunate enough to blow it up, it'll probably be replaced by a nice healthy bike engine!






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Duncan_P

posted on 28/2/07 at 06:47 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bodger
Yep they did it to me too ...... b*stards!!


They are an evil heartless bunch aren't they

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Paul TigerB6

posted on 28/2/07 at 06:58 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Duncan_P


All i wanted was a nice simple zetec build, and now 'you lot' have me seriously considering changing tack and changing to a BEC.

I hold you all fully responsible for torturing me, you bunch of so and so's.




I built a Tiger 6 with a Zetec and although it was pretty quick it ended up costing a fortune.
Engines themselves are cheap enough but its all the other bits such as shortened sump, manifold, Dellortos, ECU, lightweight flywheel etc etc. My engine originally cost around £350 but was £2k before it was running. I then ended up with a £900 BGH gearbox as 1st and 2nd were too low even on 205/45/16 wheels.
In comparison to this (sorry for the plug - just an example of how cheap BEC's can work out) I have a ZX9R i am looking to sell presently on Ebay starting at £300. £30 - £40 for an ECU plus an air filter and jetting kit will give you 150bhp or so and a better power to weight ratio.
Having been out in a few BEC's from a Fireblade striker to a twin ZX12R Tiger (doing 2.8's to 60mph), even a Fireblade seemed so much quicker than a 173bhp Zetec I had - the extra 150kg you will generally end up adding makes such a huge difference.
I have now seen the light and am building a Tiger with a 2005 Yamaha R1. The engine cost me £650 and i have spent another £430 on a US loom / ECU to get around the coding issue. For this I am hoping for 180 - 190bhp and thick end of 400bhp / ton. Of course it depends what you want to use the car for that may make your mind up so really decide EXACTLY what you want from the car.

Paul

[Edited on 28/2/07 by Paul TigerB6]

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welderman

posted on 28/2/07 at 07:22 PM Reply With Quote
you can be a little on the large side if you want, eat more food etc, and still go faster.
BEC all the way.





Thank's, Joe

I don't stalk people


http://www.locostbuilders.co.uk/forum/23/viewthread.php?tid=172301

Back on with the Fisher Fury R1

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Johnmor

posted on 28/2/07 at 08:10 PM Reply With Quote
BEC pahhhh

It'll be just great driving round town, and the that ability to have to change gear every 3 secs will build the muscles in the left leg a treat.
Theres always those great long country roads when all that torque pays dividends(not)

However if you plan to race on a track every weekend then go for it.

Bike engines for bikes
Car engines for cars.



Its not rocket science.


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stevec

posted on 28/2/07 at 08:15 PM Reply With Quote
No, car engines are for Tin Tops,
Bike engines are for cars like ours.

[Edited on 28/2/07 by stevec]

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