andy_mullin
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 02:40 PM |
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Car engine wanted
Hi All,
I have just bought a part built Sylva Striker off Dwyer, I now need a good engine.
The car will be used for track days and maybe auto testing, so it needs to be a car engine.
All my mates run Blade engines, so it would be nice to be able to keep up with them.
Cheers,
Andy
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nitram38
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 02:45 PM |
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If you want to keep up with a blade then fit a blade engine!
There are power to weight issues with car engines V bike, unless you start using turbos/superchargers etc
Acceleration is generally better in a bec
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Jubal
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 03:08 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
If you want to keep up with a blade then fit a blade engine!
There are power to weight issues with car engines V bike, unless you start using turbos/superchargers etc
Acceleration is generally better in a bec
I'm not so sure. I reckon a good handling, car with 160-200hp (depending on weight) is enough to stay with a blade. From experience I know a
well driven R300 does not struggle too much to drive slowly away from an Indy Blade on track.
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CaptainJosh
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 03:30 PM |
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Duratec? Its all aliminum so that gets rid of alot of the weight problems that CEC's have, and they are also good for well over 200bhp 
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ned
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 04:09 PM |
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zetec 1.6se, cheap, small, light (ally), revvy yamaha design head and can go to 170-200bhp on standard internals (+cams) relatively easily. just shell
out for the bellhousing and remember exhaust is on drivers side...
Ned.
beware, I've got yellow skin
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CaptainJosh
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 04:21 PM |
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What ned said as well  the zetec-se engines are fantastic from what i hear
[Edited on 14/12/07 by CaptainJosh]
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JimSpencer
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 04:21 PM |
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Hi
Nice to see somebody's looked up the reg's and figured out Bike and Car engines are often (not always) in different classes in the
motorsport world.. 
If you're going to prep it for Autotests, may well be worth keeping in mind the other grass roots bits too and keep it under 1.7L as
that'll give you lots of other places to play (e.g. road going classes at Sprints & hillclimbs) and would certainly help its resale value if
you ever wanted to move it on.
To add to the one Ned points out above, could i mention the Toyota 4a-ge?
Perhaps not quite as tuneable as the zetec, but quite cheap to get to 160ish and it's the engine that Raw (Striker's current builder)
focuses on.
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twybrow
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 04:47 PM |
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What is your budget? How able are you to fabricate/plumb/wire bits for yourself (ie do you need off the shelf parts?)? Are you going for an SVA?
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andy_mullin
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 04:48 PM |
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All,
Thanks for the replies, keep them coming. I like the 4age, but it's about 3k from Raw.
The zetec 1.6se sounds interesting what car is it from?
Cheers,
Andy
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andy_mullin
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 04:57 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by twybrow
What is your budget? How able are you to fabricate/plumb/wire bits for yourself (ie do you need off the shelf parts?)? Are you going for an SVA?
To be honest I can do most things myself, budget is a different matter, I dont want to throw money at it but what ever I do I want it look right and
go well. No SVA (at the moment). Off the shelf parts are handy because sometime they are good value for money.
Cheers,
Andy
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twybrow
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 05:20 PM |
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In which case I would say Duratec or Vauxhall red top. Both will give circa 200bhp with throttle bodies (or even carbs if no SVA). The XE is quite a
bit heavier, but much cheaper and the exaust comes out the passenger side. Duratec would be lovely (and getting cheaper all the time) but could be
more work to install.
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JimSpencer
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 05:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by andy_mullin
All,
Thanks for the replies, keep them coming. I like the 4age, but it's about 3k from Raw.
The zetec 1.6se sounds interesting what car is it from?
Cheers,
Andy
Ahh well if you're going to just buy one..
Then they'll all come out around that sort of price..
If on the other hand you're going to 'LoCost' one then that's a different kettle of fish.
The Zetec Se is in the Fiesta in 1.6 form (i Think) but it's definatly in the Puma in 1.7 form - which is certainly one a lot of speed event
people go for.
[Edited on 14/12/07 by JimSpencer]
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j30fos
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 06:09 PM |
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well Im just converting a megablade to Saab turbo power, go on youtube and search for Maptun you'll see loads of saabs getting 3-400 BHP on a
standard engine im after 300 BHP ( to start ) best of all is im using the standard injection/ecu/engine and it all mounts together using the VX
to type 9 bellhouse
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Volvorsport
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 07:04 PM |
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volvo 5 cyl , get the noise with it , exhaust on the right hand side .
2.5 20v 180 bhp out of the box, turbo / NA your choice .
www.dbsmotorsport.co.uk
getting dirty under a bus
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britishtrident
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| posted on 14/12/07 at 08:40 PM |
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To keep in a sensible buget Ford Zetec silver top 1600, 1800 or 2 litre. Very reliable very very cheap to aquire, only real cost is sorting out the
induction side of things.
[I] “ What use our work, Bennet, if we cannot care for those we love? .”
― From BBC TV/Amazon's Ripper Street.
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andy_mullin
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 10:10 AM |
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Thanks to all that replied to me I got some good advise, a special thanks Dave about the Volvos.
I've decided that I'm taking the bike engine route.
Thanks again all and have a good Christmas.
Cheers,
Andy
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hellier0437
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 07:36 PM |
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if you get a burton power catalogue, at the beginning they go through every ford engine , giving power and tuning figures.
might help
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onzarob
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 08:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by hellier0437
if you get a burton power catalogue, at the beginning they go through every ford engine , giving power and tuning figures.
might help
look here for engine info
http://www.burtonpower.com/technical_1/technical_articles_default.aspx
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andy_mullin
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 08:29 PM |
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Well I'm back to a car engine again, it's now between;
A Pinto or a Zetec.
I'll take look at the Burton catalogue tonight.
Cheers,
Andy
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onzarob
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 08:38 PM |
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I was reading the Westfield blurb last night and they say the choice is difficult between the 2 but both have advantages depending on application.
The Car engine will be a better cruiser and road going car. Also will last longer than a bike engine.
A bike engine give high performance from a lighter package and it most at home on a track  not that it isn't any good on the road also the
engine do not last so long.
HTH
Rob
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02GF74
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| posted on 16/12/07 at 10:00 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by andy_mullin
A Pinto or a Zetec.
starting from scratch, like you are, then it has gotta be zetec.
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andy_mullin
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| posted on 17/12/07 at 10:39 PM |
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Zetec it is, I rang around some breakers today, they came back with £200 the other £150.
So I need to source;
clutch(what type)
a 1600 zetec flywheel
a set of carbs
exhaust manifold
Megajolt or omex
Polo Rad
Andy
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wilkingj
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| posted on 18/12/07 at 08:32 AM |
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OOhh... Tempted to offer you my 2.1 PINTO, with hot cam and twin 40 Dell Orto's, std 4 branch Exhaust, and a type 9 box
I was going to put this in my Viento, but it cried out to me for the V8
[Edited on 18/12/2007 by wilkingj]
1. The point of a journey is not to arrive.
2. Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway.
Best Regards
Geoff
http://www.v8viento.co.uk
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andy_mullin
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| posted on 18/12/07 at 06:39 PM |
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Be quick and make me an offer I cannot refuse.
Cheers,
Andy
quote:
Originally posted by wilkingj
OOhh... Tempted to offer you my 2.1 PINTO, with hot cam and twin 40 Dell Orto's, std 4 branch Exhaust, and a type 9 box
I was going to put this in my Viento, but it cried out to me for the V8
[Edited on 18/12/2007 by wilkingj]
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FazerBob
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| posted on 20/12/07 at 08:52 PM |
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Engine
Tell me about your Pinto engine, Geoff. It could be just what I'm looking for.
Bob
Bob
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