m0csi
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| posted on 18/9/10 at 07:13 PM |
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Kitcar show Stafford september 2010 Dissapointment
First time for me ... I am building McSorley V6 24V Cosworth ... Not a single Locost with this engine ,,, infact very poor ... was there at 1200 till
1530 hrs ... The £10 charge was very harsh ... where was all the stalls ... only really 2 main stalls ... Value for money was pretty disgusting ...
Will only be going again with my car when finnished and will not be paying ever again ... you lads who got in for free thats if you did .. so you
should ,,, I thought it was very poor ... But all could be redeemed on Sunday ... Thanks ... Mike ...
[Edited on 18-9-10 by m0csi]
[Edited on 18-9-10 by m0csi]
[Edited on 18-9-10 by m0csi]
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stevebubs
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| posted on 18/9/10 at 07:41 PM |
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Poor show seems to be the general consensus across all the boards...
Apparently they were trying to charge kit owners to get into the hall, also...
Guessing the show has had a poorer turnout than expected from both sides and they've been trying to recoup as much of their money as possible to
reduce their losses.
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Davegtst
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| posted on 18/9/10 at 08:13 PM |
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Glad i didn't go now. I was hoping to get some seats on the cheap but it was a bit far from me really.
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Bumble
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| posted on 18/9/10 at 08:20 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Davegtst
Glad i didn't go now. I was hoping to get some seats on the cheap but it was a bit far from me really.
Same as that ^^^^ 2hr drive for me and I was in two minds today whether to go or not......thought I'd wait and see some feedback on here first
and then maybe go Sunday........won't be bothering now....I'll hold on for Exeter as I'm after a new silencer and a few other bits n
bobs!!
Thans,
Matt
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gavin174
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| posted on 18/9/10 at 08:49 PM |
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we had a 6 hour round trip..
very dissappointed..
the organisers were "allegedley" ringing round last week offering spaces to trade at reduced rate trying to fill the hall
it didnt work.
apparently the organisers have upset some of the usual trade stands and they are boycotting....
there is a rumour that exeter could be cancelled..
http://www.essexkitcarclub.com
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scootz
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| posted on 18/9/10 at 09:02 PM |
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Were there many punters there?
It's Evolution Baby!
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Dusty
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| posted on 18/9/10 at 09:25 PM |
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This poor show is down to Tanner. Nothing wrong with kit car shows per se.
Exeter is a completely different ball game and is always good. I would place it second only to Stoneleigh lately since Newark has run down a bit these
last couple of years. Very surprised to hear there are rumours of cancellation.
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m8kwr
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| posted on 18/9/10 at 09:38 PM |
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I live 4 miles away and I don't bother going!!!
Waste of £10, if I had a kit car and got in free, instead of bits in my garage and I might bother driving past it and spending £10 in fuel as there
are some nice roads that side of stafford 
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kipper
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| posted on 18/9/10 at 09:38 PM |
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I am glad this has been posted here as I was going to go to the show Sunday , but after attending the BMF motorcycle rally today (Sat) and being more
than PIXXED off at being charged 13 pounds entry I don't think I will bother.
Denis.
Where did that go?
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Chippy
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| posted on 18/9/10 at 10:29 PM |
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m0csi
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I am building McSorley V6 24V Cosworth ... Not a single Locost with this engine
Here's one for you. Cheers Ray
 
Engine
[Edited on 18-9-10 by Chippy]
To make a car go faster, just add lightness. Colin Chapman - OR - fit a bigger engine. Chippy
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Dopdog
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| posted on 18/9/10 at 10:51 PM |
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for the last few years they have always been a dissapointment
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steve m
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 01:57 AM |
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I cant comment on the staford show as i dont think i ever went to it, however i think the decline was happening several years ago, and is not somthing
new
in 1999 and 2000, Stonleigh, Newark, Donnington, Exeter, were all good shows
Quite a few of us southeners frequented them often, but 2001, i for one was getting bored, the shows them selves were getting staid, and lack of
traders, and my last show Newark 2002, i stayed about 3 hours, and came home
Perhaps the cycle of events is changing
or perhaps the more shows we frequent,, the more we crave for more
I also now could not envisage the long haul travel in my 7 loaded up with camping gear, to be freezing my bits off at night, just to see some shiney
cars that i would never be intrested in any way
Steve
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s6otty
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 06:49 AM |
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That's made my mind up, was going to venture down today, but I'll log some build hours instead!
I've only ever been to Stoneleigh, and guess that's where I'll be sticking to. Shame really, I was hoping to do some
shopping!!!!!!!!!
S
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Catatomic
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 06:57 AM |
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Oh dear! It seems I have some spare time today! Oh well, there's always donington
See you all at a better show.
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joemotion
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 07:14 AM |
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We just said we had a car and got in to the halls - tenner for two. They didnt check if we had a car so just go in and say you have one and you
should be fine!
Bit poor in there to be honest but had a good chat about a cage with Gary i think from Tiger so was worth it
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Nash
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 08:48 AM |
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Travelled all the way from East Kent (450 mile round trip). Very disappointed with the show but always nice to mingle with like minded anoraks 
Hope Exeter isn't cancelled as it was a good show last year (apart from the weather) and its a month earlier this year.
......Neil
It's What You Do Next That Counts.
Build It, Buy It, Drive It:
Southern Kit Car Club
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 09:21 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by m0csi
First time for me ... I am building McSorley V6 24V Cosworth ... Not a single Locost with this engine ,,, infact very poor ... was there at 1200 till
1530 hrs ... The £10 charge was very harsh ... where was all the stalls ... only really 2 main stalls ... Value for money was pretty disgusting ...
Will only be going again with my car when finnished and will not be paying ever again ... you lads who got in for free thats if you did .. so you
should ,,, I thought it was very poor ... But all could be redeemed on Sunday ... Thanks ... Mike ...
There are a few 24V Cosworth cars around, but i found that they were never at the shows when i went either. Chippy (Above) has a quality finished car
from the pictures, and is very helpful. I gave up on the 24V because of the time it was taking to mate it to a transaxle for mid-mounting.
Glad i didnt go either. Ive been to a few now and i wont be going to Detling again either. Might see if i can give Exeter some of my time though.
Stoneleigh seems to be the main show each year, and i stayed for two days at Newark which was cold, and not brilliant.
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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Strontium Dog
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 09:22 AM |
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I've just got back from Rally Day at Castle Combe with the GT4DC. It was a very good event as usual but we did note that there were less people
walking around than usual. Opie oils were conspicuous by their absence and although a fabulous warm sunny day it just seemed less busy than usual.
People have less money to spend and petrol costs a lot more than it did a little while ago, I suspect this may effect a lot of events over the next
few years
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MakeEverything
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 09:22 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Chippy
quote:
I am building McSorley V6 24V Cosworth ... Not a single Locost with this engine
Here's one for you. Cheers Ray
Engine
[Edited on 18-9-10 by Chippy]
Chippy, that does look awesome. Really wish i had more time to put mine in!
Kindest Regards,
Richard.
...You can make it foolProof, but youll never make it Idiot Proof!...
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SPYDER
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 11:08 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by joemotion
We just said we had a car and got in to the halls - tenner for two
We were charged £5 each as well, only to find out later that many kit car drivers got in free.
We went back to the desk and got a refund.
We were mightily disappointed with what was on offer inside.
Anyone who paid £10 would be mortified!
The chance to meet and share ideas with like-minded kit builders and owners outside the hall is all that makes Stafford worthwhile.
Big thankyou to the JPSCC for supplying lunch.
Geoff.
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jollygreengiant
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 11:20 AM |
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Yes I must admit I, and the rest of our little (Luego) group, were rather disapointed at the low number of trade stands that we had to, or were
expected to, pay £10 to go and see without any quibbling. To be honest there was no one there that you couldn't have got a good next day service
from over the internet.
Any way chap, you might also have a gander at NeilP's car (not to be confused with Neil P) he also is running a Cossie V6.
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Beware of the Goldfish in the tulip mines. The ONLY defence against them is smoking peanut butter sandwiches.
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 11:20 AM |
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Me + missus mortified then. Still it's a lesson learned. I didn't expect it to be big but felt I should support it as it's the
"Northern" show and could potentially be quite big but just seems badly attended by the big manufacturers and sellers. I dunno if its the
distance as most live darn Sarf or if it's the site fee's they have to pay. I looked forward to the cars outside as this is what made it
for me in 2008 but there were hardly any there yesterday.
I sat down with a the missus for a butty and said that this show won't exist within 3-4 years and I stick by it. I bet the place is deserted
today and last night.
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AdrianH
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 03:53 PM |
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I heard that it cost around £12,000 for the event, that is a lot of people to get through the door.
I guess it becomes a gamble as to cost and expected turn-out and what is a reasonable price to put on the entrance.
I thought the idea of entrance to the grounds being free and only charge to get in the halls was reasonable then realised that because there were
other events on at the show ground there would have been little else that could be done.
So in effect if you turn up, wish to camp it cost you nothing and the toilet and showers were free.
Go into the halls to purchase anything and that's when you paid.
Not sure why traders did not turn up or support it probably because of bad reviews on the forums they decided not to bother! As it gets talked down
before the show it will have a bad turn out as we listen to the reviews and it will never get better.
Just wondering if you wish the show to go on how would you do it different?
1) Ask the clubs wishing to attend to put funds into the cost of running the show and then taking a percentage of profits or loss.
2) Run the same prices at Stoneleigh is planning for 2011, see this link here:
Stoneleigh 2011
3) Just not bother and let it die?
I would like to have a show further North still such as at Harrogate, but I bet that would not be a cheap show to put on.
Lastly I did pay £10 to get in, was disappointed in the lack of trade stands turning up but still happy to support the cause.
Adrian
Why do I have to make the tools to finish the job? More time then money.
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marcjagman
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 05:03 PM |
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I went yesterday, Saturday, with the missus as we have never been before. Was bad enough having to pay a tenner each to look at a bare hall but then
the grass outside was so uneven she couldn't look around the cars outside on her mobility scooter. If they're going to rip us of they
could at least make the grass more usable.
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mistergrumpy
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| posted on 19/9/10 at 06:33 PM |
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Stoneleigh prices up! That's the end for me then. £30 a piece to camp? No way Jose.
£12k is a lot to run the event especially when there's the antiques fair on to but if only more stalls and manufacturers could be enticed to
attend I reckon more people would be happy to go along. I heard the name Den Tanner being banded about and having read his jaded past on Google then I
have to guess that politics have got involved.
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