liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 1/12/08 at 10:04 PM |
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Hillclimb Question
I am currently choosing the car i want to run next season in the road going production classes.
now the one i want is a rover metro with a 1.4 k series. (so i can run in the sub 1400 category)
this engine was only available in the metro GTI as far as i know, and they are actually a bit rare these days
so my question is am I allowed to swap a 1.4 k into a poverty spec metro. I am thinking I can because it was available in the range. Can anyone
confirm this??
Many Thanks
Liam Mc
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zilspeed
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| posted on 1/12/08 at 10:33 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
I am currently choosing the car i want to run next season in the road going production classes.
now the one i want is a rover metro with a 1.4 k series. (so i can run in the sub 1400 category)
this engine was only available in the metro GTI as far as i know, and they are actually a bit rare these days
so my question is am I allowed to swap a 1.4 k into a poverty spec metro. I am thinking I can because it was available in the range. Can anyone
confirm this??
Many Thanks
Liam Mc
In Scotland, yes you can do this.
Hopefully Minitici will be along soon to confirm I'm not talking b88ll8cks.
(He know way more than I do about such stuff.)
Don't know about down there, but I suspect it's the same.
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 1/12/08 at 10:39 PM |
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aren't the rules nationwide? or is it up to regional authorities?
this would appear to be the important part of the blue book
For Road-Going Production Cars, the cylinder block and cylinder head must remain in the original position and be of the original type and material.
Induction is free (forced induction equivalency applies as in 49), as are exhaust systems, but must remain in the same capacity class as the original
car or the manufacturer’s specified option for the model and engine.
I have contacted msa technical for clarification on this, maybe they'll reply maybe they won't??
[Edited on 1/12/08 by liam.mccaffrey]
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v8kid
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| posted on 2/12/08 at 12:33 AM |
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Rules will be applied nationwide from 2010. Scotland historically had very free classes which lead to exciting events - too exciting for the MSA who
spat the dummy out and called time.
Best read the 2009 regs carefully there are some changes causing competitors to drop out next year in the roadgoing classes. Talk to your local clubs
Comps Secy
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David
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phelpsa
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| posted on 2/12/08 at 09:39 AM |
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You should be able to swap in a 16v 1.4 k-series without any issues, as the engine was a manufacturers option for that model.
However a Metro will be an absolute money pit. We looked into it but found that most needed welding, a cage was £600, the k-series engines were going
for £5-600, suspension was a nightmare to do properly.and most of it would need replacing anyway.
Go french, you know it makes sense!
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mangogrooveworkshop
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| posted on 2/12/08 at 10:28 AM |
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Go french, you know it makes sense!
The little 106 is a good choice @ 150 quid upwards
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liam.mccaffrey
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| posted on 2/12/08 at 11:27 AM |
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going french does in fact seem like quite a good idea after looking into it
[Edited on 2/12/08 by liam.mccaffrey]
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phelpsa
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| posted on 2/12/08 at 11:52 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by liam.mccaffrey
going french does in fact seem like quite a good idea after looking into it
205 XS, 106 XSi, 106 Rallye, AX GT, AX GTi...
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a4gom
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| posted on 2/12/08 at 12:47 PM |
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suzuki swift 1.3gti? I used to sprint one, there weren't many 1.4's about back then so I was mostly up against nova's and the odd
metro but neither stood a chance. Awsome little engine!
Andy
Perfect planning prevents pi$$ poor performance!
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skydivepaul
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| posted on 2/12/08 at 04:39 PM |
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again i will say go French.
any good pug 205 especially with MI16 power.
try to buy a complete prepped car that will save you a lot of money and time.
if you do go down the metro route you should have no problem in swapping the engine as it was available as a standard production car.
just another tip for you as well. just because you are running in the road going class dont expect to be able to run a road going car!!! most of the
front runners are thinly disguised race cars and are trailered to and from the circuits / venues. whilst they may be road legal in the MSA blue book
sense very few are dirven on the road
I found it more enjoyable to run in the modified class with slicks etc and it didnt cost me any more money than when i was running in the road going
classes. You have to trailer the car back and forth to the venue but i used to do that with the MK anyway
[Edited on 2/12/08 by skydivepaul]
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