Matt21
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| posted on 20/12/13 at 04:56 PM |
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Hans devices
Hi guys
I'm just wondering if anyone on here does any competing and uses a HANS device?
I'm thinking of getting one, although its not 'needed', I'd like to have one for when I start doing sprints/hill climbs and
even for track days.
I was wondering what they fit like with regards to seats and harnesses in a 7 style car, I have an MK indy R with 2" luke harnesses and the
standard firbreglass/carbon seats that MK sell.
I'm assuming my seats are in the 0-10degree inclination group as opposed to 10-20degree?
any help of them would be great 
cheers
Matt
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AdrianH
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| posted on 20/12/13 at 05:40 PM |
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I think you may need different seat belts for Hans devices as they tend to be 2inch straps over them and 3 or 4 inch lap etc.
There is a good guide for fitting seat belts which deals with normal harness as well as Hans, worth reading as it gives angles of straps etc.
http://english.schroth.com/download/SCHROTH_Racing-Hans-Tuning-2012.pdf
and
http://english.schroth.com/download/Racing_Installation_EA_8_2.pdf
Adrian
Why do I have to make the tools to finish the job? More time then money.
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jeffw
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| posted on 20/12/13 at 05:55 PM |
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You don't need special belts, I have the Hans Adjustable with non-Hans Schroth belts and they are fine.
You will almost certainly need 20 deg in a kit, I suggest you try before you buy. Go up to the Autosport show in January and try them on....I think
Demon Tweeks will let you return them if you have the wrong angle one.
I chose the adjustable as I needed 25 deg and I might use it in other cars.
I had mine fitted to me and the car by MSAR while at the Crystal Palace Sprint.
[Edited on 20/12/13 by jeffw]
[Edited on 20/12/13 by jeffw]
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MK9R
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| posted on 20/12/13 at 07:35 PM |
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Once you wear it once you dont notice it, unless you dont put it on and the you feel naked! You dont need special belts I ran with normal wide width
ones until they went out of date and them I bought Hans specific ones.
Cheers Austen
RGB car number 9
www.austengreenway.co.uk
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www.trackace.co.uk
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Duncan36
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| posted on 20/12/13 at 08:13 PM |
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I wouldn't race without one now. It feels a bit weird at first but you soon get used to it
www.acorn-printing.co.uk
www.tshirtuk.com
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RK
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 05:50 PM |
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I have a Necksgen, which is not only adjustable, lighter, but cheaper, than any HANS. I love it. Got mine from a guy I race with, here:
http://www.mortimer-racing.com/ (in Canada)
http://www.bigfootracewear.co.uk/NecksGen.html
[Edited on 21/12/13 by RK]
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Matt21
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 07:01 PM |
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Does that attach to you're lid the same as the Hans ones or do you need to fit different anchor points+
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daniel mason
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 07:48 PM |
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looks like different anchoring points!
im after a hans device too as well as a decent helmet for sprinting so if you find any deals let me know. i want used items if possible due to cost.
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Duncan36
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 09:53 PM |
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Why would you go cheap or used on a lid? It's the biggest piece of safety equipment you will buy, followed by your suit and Hans. 10 Dollar lid
for a 10 dollar head I think they used to say.
www.acorn-printing.co.uk
www.tshirtuk.com
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daniel mason
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 10:03 PM |
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dont want a cheap lid! i want a better quality/safer/more expensive one and i can get more for my money used!
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Duncan36
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 10:07 PM |
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Yes you can, but you won't know the history of it, it's its been dropped or suffered any stresses. You can't always tell by looking
if a lid has been dropped. Buying used is really one of the most basic no no's in buying a lid.
www.acorn-printing.co.uk
www.tshirtuk.com
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jeffw
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 10:09 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by RK
I have a Necksgen, which is not only adjustable, lighter, but cheaper, than any HANS. I love it. Got mine from a guy I race with, here:
http://www.mortimer-racing.com/ (in Canada)
http://www.bigfootracewear.co.uk/NecksGen.html
[Edited on 21/12/13 by RK]
The necksgen is not, yet, FIA approved as far as I'm aware so if you are required to use head restraint in your series then it has to be HANS
currently.
[Edited on 21/12/13 by jeffw]
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jeffw
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 10:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by daniel mason
dont want a cheap lid! i want a better quality/safer/more expensive one and i can get more for my money used!
A 2nd hand helmet might well be fine....but that 'might' could cost you your life or serious injury. Is it worth it for a few hundred £?
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daniel mason
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 10:21 PM |
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so could driving a car with little or no side impact protection,poor torsional rigidity, but we nearly all do at excessive speeds!
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Duncan36
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 10:39 PM |
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It's your head and your decision Daniel, if that argument makes you feel better about your decision then that's fair enough. Personally I
like to minimise the dangers as much as possible. An Arai saved my life once and that made me appreciate just how much a good lid was really worth and
although I've always raced on a tight budget, I've never gone cheap where safety equipment was concerned.
www.acorn-printing.co.uk
www.tshirtuk.com
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daniel mason
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 10:44 PM |
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coincidentally im currently looking at an arai!
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Duncan36
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 10:51 PM |
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If you can try a few different makes on as the fit is different. Bell lids didn't fit me right but Arai were a perfect fit
www.acorn-printing.co.uk
www.tshirtuk.com
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Dopdog
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 10:53 PM |
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This is always a good talking point, I use a necksgen as well and there has been this topic on another forum. Look at this link
http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/
It is a bit of a shock to think you have the best helmet and really it is not.
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daniel mason
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 10:58 PM |
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i had to sell my bell helmet as it suffered from severe 'lifting' at speed.
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Dopdog
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 11:01 PM |
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As said you need to make sure it fits you and each to his own, my bell fits a treat
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Duncan36
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| posted on 21/12/13 at 11:41 PM |
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That site only lists bike lids as far as I can see?
[Edited on 21/12/13 by Duncan36]
www.acorn-printing.co.uk
www.tshirtuk.com
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jeffw
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| posted on 22/12/13 at 07:16 AM |
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There is a GP5X listed which was a non-race version of the GP5 motorsport helmet, so same shell
http://sharp.direct.gov.uk/testsratings/arai-gp5x
gets 5 stars
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Duncan36
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| posted on 22/12/13 at 08:33 AM |
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I thought the X was the bike race version with a wider aperture than the car version. Good to see it's got 5 stars though
www.acorn-printing.co.uk
www.tshirtuk.com
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jeffw
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| posted on 22/12/13 at 10:12 AM |
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Same shell but as you say the Bike version. Don't appear to be any GP6 listed like mine.
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RK
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| posted on 22/12/13 at 02:49 PM |
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FYI
http://www.necksgen.com/necksgenfaq.html
The post holes are in the same spot as HANS, but use their own anchors, which come with the system. It is a quick release, with a little ribbon, you
pull to get it off. It takes 5 minutes to install the anchors on a predrilled helmet.
[Edited on 22/12/13 by RK]
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