Guinness
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| posted on 25/9/06 at 07:59 AM |
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Looking at getting into 750 racing
Hi Guys
Was talking to a mate of mine about going racing next year. He wants to do the Caterham Acadamy but can't afford it, so I suggested 750MC
Locost Series.
I know this years season is nearly complete, (well it is for the locosts) the rest seem to be meeting at Snetterton at the end of this month. Is it
worth going along to have a look around (bearing in mind it's a 540 mile round trip!)?
We are going to arrange to have a look at No57, because it's local, and reasonably priced.
My questions are:-
who do we speak to with regards to next seasons racing?
Are there any spaces left on the grid?
Are the technical regs about to be revised (making a car that ran this season ineligable?).
Cheers
Mike
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fesycresy
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| posted on 25/9/06 at 08:05 AM |
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I'd speak to Matt at Procomp.
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Rob Palin
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| posted on 25/9/06 at 08:17 AM |
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We won't be at Snetterton but (as i think you're suggesting) you would get an idea of the way a 750MC race meeting runs - paddock
organisation, scrutineering, practice etc - all useful experience.
There is no limit to the number of cars that can enter the championship, and certainly the more the better. Last year we had enough entries to
require a qualifying heat for each feature race but this year hasn't been quite as packed. Having enough people for a heat is great for new
drivers as you can effectively get two races for the price of one and more track time is vital.
Some of the minor technical regs are due to change, i'm not sure about all of them. Matt from Procomp should be along here shortly and he can
give you the full run-down. As far as i'm aware there aren't any that would make a car from this year ineligible. The biggest changes
were probably at the start of 2006, mainly due to MSA safety upgrades; plumbed-in fire extinguishers were mandatory and the certification of some
helmets & seat belts expired.
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procomp
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| posted on 25/9/06 at 08:39 AM |
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Hi thanks fesycresy. The race season for the locosts finished at donnington sept 17.
The regulations will have small changes or clarifications in them for next year but certinaly nothing to worry about as any big changes have to have a
years notification so any current running to the regs car will be fine for next season.
Spaces on the grid will be fine as they run a heat and final system so the heat is a full grid and the rest go throgh to the final. Then however many
spaces are left on the grid for the final is filled by the top fiishers of the heat if that makes sence.
Person to contact is.
Robin Knight or his secretary who deal with racing enquiries and membership and regulation questions and propbably plays in a one man band also on
01379-741641.
cheers matt
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Danozeman
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| posted on 25/9/06 at 01:59 PM |
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Sorry to highjack your thread.
Is it expensive to race in the series??
Dan
Built the purple peril!! Let the modifications begin!!
http://www.eastangliankitcars.co.uk
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progers
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| posted on 25/9/06 at 02:11 PM |
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Don't forget that the 750Motor club does a range of different formulea all racing at their meets. For example, you can also race in the kit car
championship or the RGB (road going bike engined) championship too.
The cost of entry is about the same for all - as an example Brands Hatch was £185 for locost, £170 for kit car or RGB. You probably get more time on
track with the locosts though as they often have heats before the final. Racing is not a cheap hobby but the 750MC is about as cheap as it gets.
Main difference between the formulea is the cars themselves, their cost and performance.
Myself, I run in the RGB series - why? - can't beat it for performance per £. Even a fireblade car is faster than an R300 Caterham :-). Prices
start from around 8K (I know of several for sale around this amount) - i.e. a bit more expensive than a locost racer at 5K. Kits are somewhere in
between.
If you look at this months Circuit Driver magazine you will see a good write up on RGB cars by Mark Hales. The Phoenix he tested was mine :-)
Hope that helps
- Paul
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procomp
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| posted on 26/9/06 at 10:16 AM |
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Hi on one of the other threads on hear their is a guide for the pricees of racing in locost but basicaly once you have your car a season inc
race/tow car fuel a few spares and repairs a couple of over night b+b for the double header weekends all entry +registration fees will roughly come to
about £4000-£5000 for the locost or kitcar championship obviously more can be spent.Plus you have got to get your ards and race suit helmet Ect.
The rgb championship will cost a bit more to run the car and i would do more reaserch on that before thinking about it.
Prices of cars seconhand range from £3500 to £7000 for a ready to run at the front car in locost. Kits range from £5000-£9000. RGB range from £8000-
?.
cheers matt
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progers
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| posted on 26/9/06 at 02:01 PM |
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I would agree with matt and say you need to budget around 4-5k for a years racing.
As far as "additional" costs are concerned it really boils down to mechanical reliability and whether you smash your car up! I have run a
Yamaha R1 motor all year and all I have done is replace a fuel pump and change oil and filters.
Some guys run blueprinted Busa's that cost $$ but thats not needed to be competitive. Some people also get carried away and start buying lots of
go faster bits which again has limited benefit.
I have a good friend who bought a £7K live axled Fury for 7K and is currently 4th in class C (fireblade engines) and has won a couple of races. Its
driver talent that counts!
If you budget for one engine replacement you can limit this to £1K, as long as you are running fireblade/R1/ZX9.
Costs for cars varies from 7K -> 15k. The upper end of the scale is for championship winning cars or highly spec'd class A cars (Busa ZX12
etc). So the major difference is the initial outlay on vehicle, much of the rest stays the same.
If you want to go cheap, stock hatch is probably even more cost effective than locost racing with good cars available for around 2K.
Cheers
Paul
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procomp
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| posted on 27/9/06 at 08:38 AM |
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Hi i have to disagree about the stock hatch being cheaper as the amount of body and pannel damaged incured during a seasons racing is verging on
ridiculous and many s/hatch drivers are looking to move on to cheaper formulas ie somthing involving kit cars of somesort.
cheers matt
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progers
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| posted on 27/9/06 at 03:04 PM |
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Fair point, stock hatch has been bad this year for incidents. I think it won't be so bad from now on since their severe ticking off recently
:-).
Paul
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