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Blackwater

posted on 20/1/08 at 06:56 PM Reply With Quote
Oil in Type9, where?

This is embarrasing, but I got a n00b question.

I´ve put my Type9 with engine in the chassie when I remembered theres no oil in it.
Do i open the big flat cover at the first arrow or can I put in where the gearlever is? The hole to the speedometeer on the lower side is open, will it come out there?




sorry for the english

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Mole

posted on 20/1/08 at 06:59 PM Reply With Quote
I 've yet to do this but I believe you fill it through the drain plug. It's opened with a hex key.
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bonzoronnie

posted on 20/1/08 at 07:01 PM Reply With Quote
Type 9 filling

The oil filler plug is in the side of the gearbox.

This also acts as the oil level indicator.

Remove plug from the side of the gearbox. Fill untill oil starts to come back out.
You then have the correct oil level.

Ronnie


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coozer

posted on 20/1/08 at 07:05 PM Reply With Quote
Straight down from the first arrow on the side of the cast iron part is the hex plug where you fill it up.

However, I fitted mine as well with no oil in so I took the top cover off and shined a torch down to the hex plug (on the inside!) and filled it from the top.

The gear stick hole doesn't go into the main cast so you cant put the oil in from there.

Cheers,
Steve





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piddy

posted on 20/1/08 at 07:20 PM Reply With Quote
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The hole to the speedometeer on the lower side is open, will it come out there?

There is a good possibility that oil will come out of here best to fill it.

Fill here.



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bonzoronnie

posted on 20/1/08 at 07:31 PM Reply With Quote
Yes, the part arrowed is the filler/level plug.

It should not leak from the speedo drive if the drive wheel is in place.
Ford reccomend the use of SAE EP 80 oil for the type 9 gearbox

Ronnie

[Edited on 20/1/08 by bonzoronnie]

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TOO BADD

posted on 20/1/08 at 08:11 PM Reply With Quote
I drilled a hole in the side of the tunnel and used a plastic tube to fill. No probs and you can always fill with box in situ.

[Edited on 20/1/08 by TOO BADD]

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ASH3

posted on 20/1/08 at 10:09 PM Reply With Quote
Its not an sae80 its a 5speed semi synthetic oil ,80 is ok in 4 speed box but not 5 speed.






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bonzoronnie

posted on 21/1/08 at 10:23 AM Reply With Quote
Oil

My Manual must be wrong then

For the 5 speed Type N box it lists the following oil.

SAE 80EP
Ford Spec ESD-M2C 175-A
Duckhams Hypoid 75w/90s

Semi synthetic or Mineral then.

Ronnie

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Blackwater

posted on 21/1/08 at 11:04 AM Reply With Quote
sh*t. I dont know if I can get to it now. Not sure yet, have to look this evening

quote:
Originally posted by coozer
However, I fitted mine as well with no oil in so I took the top cover off and shined a torch down to the hex plug (on the inside!) and filled it from the top.



Hope i can do it as Steve did

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bonzoronnie

posted on 21/1/08 at 11:26 AM Reply With Quote
Oil filling

I personally do not see any problem filling the box from the top cover Provided it is filled to the correct level.

Just remember to double check that this filler is tight

Ronnie

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rusty nuts

posted on 21/1/08 at 06:51 PM Reply With Quote
BGH Geartech recommend Comma semi synthetic , suspect they know a thing or two about the type 9. Do not use EP gear oils as they will cause very stiff gearchange and possibly damage the synchromesh/baulk rings. Once filled it is difficult to empty the box when in place. It may be possible to remove the top cover and suck oil out.
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David Jenkins

posted on 21/1/08 at 08:18 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by rusty nuts
BGH Geartech recommend Comma semi synthetic , suspect they know a thing or two about the type 9. Do not use EP gear oils as they will cause very stiff gearchange and possibly damage the synchromesh/baulk rings. Once filled it is difficult to empty the box when in place. It may be possible to remove the top cover and suck oil out.


This is what Comma recommend for the Sierra models that had a type 9 box...

SX75W-90 High Performance Semi-Synthetic Gear Oil (GL4)

...according to their website, anyway. They also show an oil with the same name, but with a GL5 label - I think that's for very cold weather conditions.

One question vaguely related to the original query - I want to get the existing oil out of my Type 9 box. I have a filler hole in the lid (I can't get at the side filler hole) or I can take the lid off if I really have to.

Is there some sort of oil pump that I can use to get it all out?

cheers,
David






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Peteff

posted on 21/1/08 at 09:00 PM Reply With Quote
I want to get the existing oil out of my Type 9 box

Why? There is no service interval for the oil. Take the propshaft out and tip it up is the way if you must do it.





yours, Pete

I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.

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David Jenkins

posted on 21/1/08 at 09:05 PM Reply With Quote
'Cos I'd like to see if semi-synthetic would make it work better - I've got EP-80 in there at the moment. It can be very stiff and clunky on a cold morning.

And I'm not taking the engine and gearbox out unless one or the other is broken!

I was thinking more about those plastic hand pumps used by nefarious folk who nick the petrol out of your tank...






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Chazzy

posted on 21/1/08 at 09:20 PM Reply With Quote
Turkey baster?

I used a BIG syringe and a bit of brake hose to fill mine from below the car.

chas

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rusty nuts

posted on 21/1/08 at 09:20 PM Reply With Quote
Screwfix sell a liquid transfer pump for about £7.00 that would probably do the job, looks very much like a grease gun . One of those vacuum oil draining pumps would be ideal if you can borrow one. Even an oil bicycle pump with an extension connector would do.
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Blackwater

posted on 21/1/08 at 09:53 PM Reply With Quote
well I cant open the plug out, its to tight. so i fill from the top. I opened the lid and it looked ok to do it from there.
Im recommended GL5 75W-90 1.9Liters of oil in the gearbox. Second choice T55 80W-90

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snapper

posted on 21/1/08 at 10:15 PM Reply With Quote
ebay siphon





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David Jenkins

posted on 22/1/08 at 08:42 AM Reply With Quote
Mel,

That Screwfix one looks ideal (for other jobs too) so I think I'll wander down to the local branch on Saturday...

cheers,
David






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rusty nuts

posted on 22/1/08 at 07:00 PM Reply With Quote
I find mine very useful . It may need the pipe extending to get into the bottom of the gearbox but it should do the job.
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