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Can you buy direct with the actual insurance companies???
FFTS - 25/5/10 at 09:37 AM

Got my insurance sorted out the other week and I guess it must be new legislation or something as the broker had included a breakdown of the premium and I cant see they volunteered it to be nice and friendly. The breakdown was.....

50% to pay for the actual insurance and a whacking 50% to the broker for arranging it

So out of my £260 only £130 was used to give me what I needed and the broker with no risk got £130 for taking a phone call, tapping on a keyboard and printing some docs to post to me.

SO!!! is there any way you can buy direct or do you have to put up with a broker robbing you?


tegwin - 25/5/10 at 09:57 AM

Setup your own brokerage?


FFTS - 25/5/10 at 09:58 AM

quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
Setup your own brokerage?


Hahah if I wanted to rob people I'd be a mugger


Mal - 25/5/10 at 10:30 AM

If you use a company like Direct Line to insure a tin-top then you are dealing directly with the insurance company.
But if you are referring to kit car insurers then it is a specialist market with fewer providers, who as far as I know, use brokers such as Footman James and Adrian Flux.
The £130 price you mentioned is effectively the trade price to the broker. Even if you find a direct insurer it is likey that you will be charger a higher price as the retail customer.
As they say: phone around.


FFTS - 25/5/10 at 10:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mal
If you use a company like Direct Line to insure a tin-top then you are dealing directly with the insurance company.
But if you are referring to kit car insurers then it is a specialist market with fewer providers, who as far as I know, use brokers such as Footman James and Adrian Flux.
The £130 price you mentioned is effectively the trade price to the broker. Even if you find a direct insurer it is likey that you will be charger a higher price as the retail customer.
As they say: phone around.


Yep I understand the broker has to make money but shocked at just how much when the risk is with the actual insurance company. I always phone around ant that was the very best quote on R1Becca.

Just this minute renewed my clio diesel. Automatic best quote from confused.com £196 up from last years by £40.. got quote from swiftcover who I was insured with last year and guess what .. £142.

I think confused.com got confused thinking I wanted to pay £50 too much


blakep82 - 25/5/10 at 10:40 AM

whic company is the insurer?


FFTS - 25/5/10 at 11:09 AM

quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
whic company is the insurer?


SURETERM


Kriss - 25/5/10 at 11:31 AM

sureterm i think will be the policy administrators and arrangers, the actual underwritier is who you may want to track down. should be on your cert or schedule


RIE - 25/5/10 at 11:42 AM

50% is way over the industry standard for broker commissions on private motor - it's usually 10-12.5%, maybe 15-20% on specialist schemes.

In a scheme, the agent/intermediary/broker does most (or all) of the administration, taking that cost off the insurer - this can include the underwriting/actuarial bits, stationery production, legal stuff, promotion, claims handling and payment, marketing and what have you; the final portion is literally the money set aside in the pool to pay for actual damage.

A lot of intermediaries add on admin charges for their work, that might add quite a bit on.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who gets what money, the only thing to ask is can you get it anywhere else cheaper?*



*taking into account level of cover/service/etc provided


blakep82 - 25/5/10 at 12:42 PM

http://www.sureterm.com/


norfolkluego - 25/5/10 at 05:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by RIE
50% is way over the industry standard for broker commissions on private motor - it's usually 10-12.5%, maybe 15-20% on specialist schemes.

In a scheme, the agent/intermediary/broker does most (or all) of the administration, taking that cost off the insurer - this can include the underwriting/actuarial bits, stationery production, legal stuff, promotion, claims handling and payment, marketing and what have you; the final portion is literally the money set aside in the pool to pay for actual damage.

A lot of intermediaries add on admin charges for their work, that might add quite a bit on.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter who gets what money, the only thing to ask is can you get it anywhere else cheaper?*



*taking into account level of cover/service/etc provided


I'd agree with that, wouldn't expect more than 15%, call them and moan.
I believe Sureterm place a lot of their business with Lloyds syndicates who I suspect don't deal direct.


bassett - 25/5/10 at 09:21 PM

Sounds like a lot of room to work on for a discount, go back to them with a figure they can try and match. Im an insurance underwriter myself just wish i wrote car insurance business as i get a 50% company discount!