Where is reverse? Ford 5 speed box.
markie76 - 28/6/12 at 09:41 PM
Hi Guys,
I just bought a JC Locust WIde Body Sports.
I have a few jobs that need doing on it but my immediate concerns are there is no horn and I can't find reverse gear... 
Its been off the road for 2 years but 2ltr pinto engine runs fine and I'm told it has a 5 speed Type 9 gearbox (Sierra/cortina running gear).
But I can't find reverse - there is no shift pattern on the gear knob. The shift pattern seems to be;
1 3 5
2 4
I would expect R to be below 5th - but pushing down in that direction the lever doesn't travel far and the reversing light doesn't come on.
I've also tried left and up of 1 - seems to be no travel in that direction whatsoever. Also tried pushing down on the shifter while trying under
5th and to the left of 1st - but nothing.
Any help much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mark
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blakep82 - 28/6/12 at 09:47 PM
push down on the lever and its up next to 1st
deezee - 28/6/12 at 10:05 PM
Gearbox pattern is below. Push down for reverse.
R 1 3 5
__2 4__
[Edited on 28/6/12 by deezee]
deltron63 - 28/6/12 at 10:05 PM
R 1 3 5
2 4
markie76 - 28/6/12 at 10:21 PM
quote:
Originally posted by blakep82
push down on the lever and its up next to 1st
quote:
Originally posted by deezee
Gearbox pattern is below. Push down for reverse.
R 1 3 5
__2 4__
[Edited on 28/6/12 by deezee]
quote:
Originally posted by deltron63
R 1 3 5
2 4
Thanks for the replies.
I've tried pushing down and then up next to left - but nothing. (this is like my MK1 golf - you push down & lever goes left & up)
The lever on this doesn't seem to have any downward movement
Has something worn out?
OR
Is it a different gearbox? - what is a quick way to confirm what it is?
Chippy - 28/6/12 at 10:43 PM
You positive that its a type 9, could be an MT75, in which case it will have a flange under the gear lever knob that you pull up to select reverse.
Just a thought. HTH Ray
snapper - 29/6/12 at 05:19 AM
MT75
Below 5th
Pull up and back
Oddified - 29/6/12 at 07:52 AM
Post a picture of the box to be sure what you have
Ian
Furyous - 29/6/12 at 11:47 AM
You might need to move the lever into second then move it towards first while putting pressure to the left. I found on my Type 9 that the slot for
reverse wasn't quite in line with neutral.
There's also something about a plastic saddle someone else can go into detail about.
Westy1994 - 29/6/12 at 02:19 PM
If it's anything like my box, you just move it far left and up without any downward movement at all, this has caught me out a few times at
traffic lights 
markie76 - 17/7/12 at 08:31 PM
Hi Guys,
Sorry for the delay in responding. Pics of my box (what I can see of it from the engine bay);
[Edited on 17/7/12 by markie76]
mookaloid - 17/7/12 at 08:51 PM
I came across a type 9 (yours looks like one) where the downward movement to get it past the gate to reverse seemed to have seized. A squirt of wd40
at the base of the lever sorted it.
markie76 - 8/8/12 at 01:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Furyous
You might need to move the lever into second then move it towards first while putting pressure to the left. I found on my Type 9 that the slot for
reverse wasn't quite in line with neutral.
There's also something about a plastic saddle someone else can go into detail about.
quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
I came across a type 9 (yours looks like one) where the downward movement to get it past the gate to reverse seemed to have seized. A squirt of wd40
at the base of the lever sorted it.
Thanks guys. I can get into reverse by going into second then with left and downward pressure. It's a bit hit & miss/stiff and when the
weather improves I'll take the gear lever boot off and see whats going on under there.
silky16v - 8/8/12 at 01:13 PM
quote:
Originally posted by markie76
quote:
Originally posted by Furyous
You might need to move the lever into second then move it towards first while putting pressure to the left. I found on my Type 9 that the slot for
reverse wasn't quite in line with neutral.
There's also something about a plastic saddle someone else can go into detail about.
quote:
Originally posted by mookaloid
I came across a type 9 (yours looks like one) where the downward movement to get it past the gate to reverse seemed to have seized. A squirt of wd40
at the base of the lever sorted it.
Thanks guys. I can get into reverse by going into second then with left and downward pressure. It's a bit hit & miss/stiff and when the
weather improves I'll take the gear lever boot off and see whats going on under there.
get a new selector fitted will change the whole feel to the gear changes at a guess you probs have a worn linkage system
markie76 - 8/8/12 at 01:45 PM
get a new selector fitted will change the whole feel to the gear changes at a guess you probs have a worn linkage system
Yes I do like a firm diciplined working gear change!
What do you mean by new selector? The whole gearlever mechanism mounted outside the box? Sounds expensive?
silky16v - 8/8/12 at 02:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by markie76
get a new selector fitted will change the whole feel to the gear changes at a guess you probs have a worn linkage system
Yes I do like a firm diciplined working gear change!
What do you mean by new selector? The whole gearlever mechanism mounted outside the box? Sounds expensive?
something like this i do believe, but ring and check first
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.ph
p?products_id=2009&osCsid=k3199fnh280ek76ek692mh0150
http://www.motorsport-tools
.com/heavy-duty-works-spec-5-speed-type9-gear-lever-rose-jointed-quick-shift-p-268397.html
[Edited on 8/8/12 by silky16v]
[Edited on 8/8/12 by silky16v]
markie76 - 1/9/12 at 11:44 PM
quote:
Originally posted by silky16v
quote:
Originally posted by markie76
get a new selector fitted will change the whole feel to the gear changes at a guess you probs have a worn linkage system
Yes I do like a firm diciplined working gear change!
What do you mean by new selector? The whole gearlever mechanism mounted outside the box? Sounds expensive?
something like this i do believe, but ring and check first
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.ph
p?products_id=2009&osCsid=k3199fnh280ek76ek692mh0150
http://www.motorsport-tools
.com/heavy-duty-works-spec-5-speed-type9-gear-lever-rose-jointed-quick-shift-p-268397.html
[Edited on 8/8/12 by silky16v]
[Edited on 8/8/12 by silky16v]
Oooh, these seem a bit pricey...
Are they a 'guaranteed fix'? IE if I buy and fit one will it definately fix it or could there be something further down the line which
causes/contributes to a still reverse gear engagement?
rusty nuts - 2/9/12 at 10:02 AM
Forget about expensive quickshifts, have a look at David Jenkins website for an easy locost remote and quickshift that works just as well as the
expensive ones, mine cost a total of £0.92 to make.Remember type 9 synchros are not the best and the problem is made worse by rapid gearchanges.
Chances are that the plastic "saddle" at the base of the gear lever that clips on to the selector is worn , cost about a couple of quid and
its just a case of removing the gear lever to fit it. Use plenty of lubrication when refitting the gear lever to make gear changes smooth
