Tralfaz
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| posted on 12/3/07 at 07:13 PM |
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Looking good GAZ. I like what you are doing in the rear so far, love the side, especially the rear 3/4 view. I just can't fall in love with the
front.
Keep at it!
Best of Luck,
T
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 13/3/07 at 08:36 AM |
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ahh leave the front it's done
I think if you get the doors right and make some sort of boot lid then the bodyshell will sell very well. You'll have to be cleaver with the
mounting points so the body can be lifted off and on quite easily. Weight as well could be an issue if you’re not careful, thin as possible.
I really hope to see this as a kit.
Fame is when your old car is plastered all over the internet
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 13/3/07 at 09:06 AM |
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locost design
thanks for the comments.
Although i like the basic idea of the front i am not completely happy with the grill arangement as it does not have the same degree of subtlety as the
rest of the design.
The back is on its way except for the rear glass area which needs some revision in some way and to be honnest i am not sure how at the moment. Any
ideas?
I am quite keen on the idea of having a boot on the back. Rather then it opening from the top what do we think of it hinging from the bottom of the
surface that has the number plate fitted to it?
If anyone has any ideas on the design or how to get it into production please comment.
Thanks again
GAZ
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 13/3/07 at 04:05 PM |
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Have you discussed it with MK engineering or some of the other companies? They I'm sure would be interested in marketing such a product. Would
you be making the full size form, if so that would make it a lot easier to get backing. Just think how many folk, including myself were quite intent
on making a body for their car but now could use this.
You could do a poll to get an idea of the number of interested people and what folk would consider paying for it. Or how many consider things like a
boot, glass side windows important.
As for the front, I say leave it. It’s looks very snake like and in proportion. There is a danger you will start to fiddle with it now and spoil the
clean lines. All the best supercars have little in the way of fussy details. If folk later want to stick vents and bumps all over it leave that to
them, you’ll never please everyone so don’t even try.
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AdamR
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| posted on 13/3/07 at 05:59 PM |
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Been following this thread for a couple of weeks without comment, but just had to chip in some praise now you've got the back sorted... it looks
amazing!
I'm positive there's a market out there for this sort of thing. I know I'm not the only builder that is not totally enamoured with
the classic looks of the 7. An affordable bolt-on alternative like yours would sell hundreds I'm sure.
Couple of thoughts:
- A topless derivative would be easy to produce, appeal to a wider market, and potentially save hassle of sourcing glass.
- A key decision will be what sizes of chassis it will accommodate... most people use sierra track these days, but with varying chassis widths.
Hopefully all would be able to fit - mine included!.
I really hope this project makes the jump to full size.
All the best!
Adam 
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Bob C
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| posted on 13/3/07 at 06:00 PM |
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Still looks mint Gaz & I still want one. I felt you were losing your way a little around page13 - 15 but you've pulled it all back!!!
Watching with interest
Bob
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 13/3/07 at 09:47 PM |
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Thanks for all the comments chaps.
I will try and address some questions (please bare in mind i have just got back from the pub)
Topless version.
There will be one but at the moment it depends on time. If all goes well there will be enough time to do both versions in model form. If i am short
of time there will at least be a photoshop version like the image a few pages back.
Chassis Width.
When it comes to the full size one, I am 90% sure that i would go for the sierra width. At the moment the model is solid escort axel but with wide
wheels so the body is not far off the width that would be needed for the wider chassis. (mac whippy have you had time to measure yours yet?)
In the next few days i will try to contact a few of the kit car mags and try and drum up some interest as far as companies are concerned that way.
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 13/3/07 at 09:51 PM |
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I have tried to just tidy the model today so no major changes. Sorry
 
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gottabedone
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| posted on 13/3/07 at 09:51 PM |
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Hey Gaz,
in my archive is a foty of the Mazda Kabura (loads more on Google). It's a bit more watered down than your vision but they have used the
headlights to blend the front arches and the bonnet area.
The cobra coupe has to be my all time favourite and i think that you may be able to pick up the detail lines from the rear arches and carry them
around the rear. This would allow you to mount your exhausts and number plate in true GT40 style.
7 purists will say that you won't be able to put your exhausts up high etc. etc. but hey - it's your design so have fun.
regards
Steve
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 13/3/07 at 09:53 PM |
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One Day it will jump to full size. I have spent too much time on this for it not to.
Thanks to everyone
GAZ
 
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gottabedone
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| posted on 13/3/07 at 10:01 PM |
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Gaz,
we posted the last two at the same time! the side is looking good - could you use the top of the side vent as the base of the door - it may help with
the shut lines. You may be able to incorporate a door handle under there and keep it hidden. This may help to keep your sides uncluttered......maybe
even go the Alfa 147 route and have the door handle in the rear pillar.
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 08:49 AM |
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locost design
thanks Gotta
Great minds think alike.
Keep looking on here
GAZ
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 09:23 AM |
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I say its finished. Looks perfect from all angles.
What a great surface finish you've achieved, is there any shrinkage as it dries or does it even dry?? All in all a very interesting exercise.
You should do another course now - 'Putting a body shell into production'
You could even use the model to make vacuum formed body shells for R/C cars...
[Edited on 14/3/07 by Mr Whippy]
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sgraber
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 03:13 PM |
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I would like to see your door shut line and the shut line for the bonnet incorporated into the shape. It's such a great shape right now that I
am worried the shut lines will break the flow. Also, the door glass: will that be the complete side piece, or is there going to be a seal between two
pieces, the door and the B-pillar piece? (sorry if you covered this already, this is a loooong thread, and it's obvious people are starved for
some 'style' to go with their lightness.)
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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Mr Whippy
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 03:28 PM |
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IMO I think that it should not be a flip front but have a separate bonnet. Why? Well the front wings can be bolted to the engine bay sides for
simplicity and strength, the bonnet looks like it will have to be molded separately anyway due to the cutouts next to the lights plus no wobbly
lights, god I hate that
A lift off roof section (might be able to be stored under the bonnet) would be nice, as would the side windows at the least being removable (stored
behind seat)
Oh and this is how the door was going to fit -
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 07:20 PM |
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Well here we go with todays pics
As for the clay it softens when heated and hardens when cool. I have not tryed it yet but you can polish the surface.
Its like posh plastacine. Big Boy play'doh.
 
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 07:39 PM |
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By pure luck i marked some shutlines on the thing today. the glass will be in two parts.
 
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 07:42 PM |
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i hope that there will be storage for the glass and roof panels in the back, it is hard to judge as the model is solid at the moment. Once i have a
fibreglass shell it will be easier to see what space i have.
 
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 14/3/07 at 07:44 PM |
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tomorow i will try and sort the lower grill out.
Thanks for all the help
GAZ
 
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andyps
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| posted on 15/3/07 at 09:49 AM |
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That is looking really good - with doors like that if you could make them removable then you would be getting close to having an open version too. Not
sure what impact that would have on the rear window in terms of pressure building up inside but might be worth considering. Maybe the rear window
could be removable too.
Andy
An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less
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sgraber
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| posted on 15/3/07 at 04:01 PM |
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My personal preference - for simplicity sake - I would look into making the door assembly be a gull-wing setup where the entire unit hinges upward.
Pull hinge pins to remove and stow in the garage for nice, sunny days.
As for the side glass/perspex; make them removable from the inside, and stowable in pockets built into the doors on the inside.
Steve Graber
http://www.grabercars.com/
"Quickness through lightness"
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Tralfaz
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| posted on 15/3/07 at 04:07 PM |
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To make a firm gullwing might necessitate making the pillars quite a bit thicker than he has now, and visibility might start to suffer...
T
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 15/3/07 at 04:41 PM |
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This is an old pic from back in the thred.(god its long) I have looked at different ways to do the doors and i think this is the best. You can
remove the glass and the roof section on sunny days and still keep the doors
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 15/3/07 at 04:43 PM |
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revised front
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Gaz 1977
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| posted on 15/3/07 at 04:44 PM |
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