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Jon Ison

posted on 11/6/10 at 10:16 AM Reply With Quote
Beware if your attending Newark

Copied from a totally non car message board but refers to Newark showgoround.

At the Newark Antique and Collectors Fair. A group of barstards have just fleeced me and two others for a total of £3000 by slitting the bottom of a side pocket in a pair of Cargoes and removing the contents i.e. readies.

Now the plain clothes DSC on duty was very co-operative and helpful and took full statements. But did add that these gangs work in fours. 1. Phone to accomplice to note target with readies in the pocket (exact pocket) 2. Person comes along to slit trouser pocket, bum bag strap or what ever, 3. remove readies, 4. pass on readies to fourth.

Victim shouts "Iv'e been robbed" and points out 1st or 2nd or even 3rd gang member (even if they have known they have been fleeced) and then when old bill arrives nothing is found and 1,2,3, gang members kick off for wrongful arrest.
No.4 is calmly walking away with your (my dosh)

His final comment was that these gangs tend to be Eastern Europeans. I find his comment shocking but have to accept his view and having led a sheltered life thus far, is this your experience??






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r1_pete

posted on 11/6/10 at 10:31 AM Reply With Quote
Another example of the value they add to our society!!!






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coozer

posted on 11/6/10 at 10:39 AM Reply With Quote
I walk around in these places not trusting a sole, keeping a tight hold of everything. I also scan the area I'm in looking for dodgy bastards and constantly keep my eyes, ears, and sense of perception wide open.

When I see anyone dodgy I like to keep an eye on them and see if they are fitting anyone else up also.

To this end, no watches, gold or otherwise goes to the show. Wallet, camera and phone next my nuts in front pockets. No more cash thank I'll think I need to buy the beer.

Never amazes me seeing peeps walking round with bags wide open or blokes flashing huge rolls of cash (jealous on that one)

Keep safe!





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Hammerhead

posted on 11/6/10 at 10:43 AM Reply With Quote
and it's £30 to get in so he got robbed twice!!
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deezee

posted on 11/6/10 at 10:46 AM Reply With Quote
Sounds a lot like a chain letter to be honest. Over the top explanations, claimed verification by persons of authority and no real advice.

Now I've had many accidents with tools and I'd be surprised if anyone could slice your cargo pants pocket open to get a massive roll of notes out without both hands and being exceptionally obvious.

Also if the cops search this 3 remaining Eastern Europeans, do they not think its odd that they are carrying knives to slice open pockets.

I have no doubt that people get pick pocketed and being careful with your money is sound advice, but I doubt its as extravagant as this.






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turbodisplay

posted on 11/6/10 at 11:00 AM Reply With Quote
I know someone who lost 2 phones at the nec. Pick pocketed. Anywhere with crowds of distracted people it will have pick pockects, same with supermarkets, trains ect.

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Benzine

posted on 11/6/10 at 11:06 AM Reply With Quote
BRING BACK HANGING!






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posted on 11/6/10 at 11:10 AM Reply With Quote
"Wallet, camera and phone next my nuts"

And hands in pockets. I've lived in Edinburgh City Centre for 4 years now and this is how i keep my belongings on me and not with anyone else.

But £3k In a cargo pocket??? Surprised they didn't just bonk you over the head and take off with the money just to make sure they got it!! I am in no way saying it is your fault but we all have to be sensible in the amount of cash we are carrying about. I never have more than £40 in my wallet. If you are paying big for something tell them to put it under the stall for you, then go and get the money out and go straight back to the stall and hand it over, saves wlaking around all day with ££££'s in your pockets!

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flibble

posted on 11/6/10 at 11:10 AM Reply With Quote
Everyone who goes should take a bumbag with them, leave it open with just a huge rat trap at the bottom and wait for someone to dip-in uninvited
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skinned knuckles

posted on 11/6/10 at 11:15 AM Reply With Quote
i've just tried to do it on my tatty old work combats and even with a brand new stanly blade, 2 hands and not rushing, it was a bit of a challenge. sounds a bit like BNP bullocks to me. i have heard of backpacks and bumbags being sliced before but this seems a bit farfetched.





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posted on 11/6/10 at 11:25 AM Reply With Quote
A friend of mine had the same thing happen to him in a hospital car park, one member bumped into him, appologised, and walked off, when he got to the hospital he went for his wallet, fortunately it was still there but he found his back pocket neatly sliced open. They obviously failed in this instance but I think they just wait for the wallet to fall out.
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Staple balls

posted on 11/6/10 at 11:35 AM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by skinned knuckles
i've just tried to do it on my tatty old work combats and even with a brand new stanly blade, 2 hands and not rushing, it was a bit of a challenge. sounds a bit like BNP bullocks to me. i have heard of backpacks and bumbags being sliced before but this seems a bit farfetched.


I've just tried the same on some old combats with a brand new, proper surgical scalpel. It works pretty well, but it's noisy and you'd likely feel it.

I reckon it'd work with lighter clothes, rather than denim, problem there is it'd be easy to go through and stick the person (and get yourself noticed)

Seems plausible but far fetched, certainly if I was gonna relieve someone of their cash, I'd go for a good old fashioned distraction and pickpocket, much less risk of being busted for offensive weapons or going equipped.






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Guinness

posted on 11/6/10 at 11:47 AM Reply With Quote
A company I used to work for used to buy a lot of stock from Newark Collectors Fair.

The boss used to regularly take 5 or 6 grand in cash, in used notes to the fair.

Then again, he used to keep an old Merc 308 van which produced clouds of blue smoke, wear a jumper with holes in and a Benny wooly hat, to look like a poor scruff.

Then he'd haggle like a bastard..........

He was so tight, he used to make us hide in the back of the van to save paying the entry fee.......

Mike






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BenB

posted on 11/6/10 at 12:40 PM Reply With Quote
Yup. sounds like a chain mail sent round by the Daily Mail

Combats are pretty strong. I use scalpels regularly and as sharp as they are they'd struggle with combats.

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marcjagman

posted on 11/6/10 at 01:00 PM Reply With Quote
Maybe, and this will upset some, if the government changed the open door policy to immigration then these europeans wouldn't get blamed. But aren't WE european too?
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coozer

posted on 11/6/10 at 01:35 PM Reply With Quote
No, I am an Englishman. I do not subscribe to Europe.





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02GF74

posted on 11/6/10 at 06:46 PM Reply With Quote
TBH nothing knew. There were signs "beware of pickpockets" in the old Bull Ring in Birmingham.

... and the slitting of handbags is a speciality practised in Madrid - I heard about it over 10 years ago.

and off courese it is the foreigners that are at fault.






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Strontium Dog

posted on 13/6/10 at 10:31 PM Reply With Quote
My Mum was ripped off while in Derriford hospital in Plymouth. The thief then used her cards in the hospital cash point too but there was no camera on it, they were all pointing elsewhere!

The young white British girl who admitted it as a "taken into consideration" when caught for other crimes was part of a gang who steal for drug money.

Nowhere is safe! And if you resist you'll probably get done for assault, so make it worthwhile!

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