Dejgh
Hi all,
Despite lifting and spacing the steering wheel position on both Zero's, I'm still having issues fitting comfortably in the car (i'm
6'3" so not particularly abnormal). The cross brace that sits to the right hand side of the steering wheel between the centre tunnel and the
bottom corner of the dash is right on the top of my shin and will definitely cause issues going from the go pedal to the stop pedal (I've heard
this is a useful move to master!).
The seats are on runners and right back so I have plenty of room - I just cant get my leg under the brace...Taller people than me fit in so what am I
doing wrong/missing?
Thanks,
Ron
A picture of the offending area might help here...
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Originally posted by pekwah1
A picture of the offending area might help here...
Is the seat high or low meaning you bend your knees???
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Originally posted by coozer
Is the seat high or low meaning you bend your knees???
The length isn't a problem. If the seat was much further back I'd struggle to floor the clutch.
How about taking the seat off it's runners and fixing it directly to the floor?
Ouch, i see what you mean. They're standard?
Im surprised its not flagged as a problem before.
What seats have you got?
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Originally posted by Toys2
How about taking the seat off it's runners and fixing it directly to the floor?
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Originally posted by ReMan
Ouch, i see what you mean. They're standard?
Im surprised its not flagged as a problem before.
What seats have you got?
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Originally posted by Ron Lang
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Originally posted by Toys2
How about taking the seat off it's runners and fixing it directly to the floor?
I need to keep the runners as I co-own the car and the other owner is somewhat shorter.
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Can you remove/replace the brace?
Picture borrowed from google again but you can see the brace more clearly here:
Cross Brace Example
Might be worth talking to GBS, looks like they have added it to increase stiffness. The MK indy (not very stiff!) does not have this tube..
Dan
I believe those cross braces each side were added after a customer on a passenger ride was injured when the test car was T-boned by a saloon car and
the chassis didn't take it too well.
Happily the customer made a full recovery and went on to buy and build a Zero afterwards.
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Originally posted by stevepj
I believe those cross braces each side were added after a customer on a passenger ride was injured when the test car was T-boned by a saloon car and the chassis didn't take it too well.
Happily the customer made a full recovery and went on to buy and build a Zero afterwards.
When you look at Caterhams and Westfields neither have this x brace so perhaps you should consider removing it? I suppose the other option would be to lower the floor ?
If it's your shin that's catching, it does rather suggest your sitting position is too high. Do others have this same problem when
they're sat in your car?
I'm five tennish & can't say I've ever had that issue, although I do have the wide body version with the lowered floor.
Must confess I don't like most sevens for being too narrow - feels as though I'm wearing them rather than sitting in them!
Could be that hunching you up is also a contributory factor.
Personally I wouldn't remove that brace entirely - reposition it maybe, but only after exhausting other options such as lower runners.
What I would do is measure the distance between the top of your head & the top of the roll bar, and see how that compares with other Zero
owners' measurements. That should at least point you in the right direction.
I say shin, it's really just below my knee. One car has runners and one doesn't. Both have the same seats and I have the same problem on both cars. I'll take some more photos once I can escape to the garage for half an hour...
It might be the seat has a tall base and that's lifting you off the floor too much. I'm 6ft4 and fit fine in my car but I did fit a super thin seat with no runners slammed right against the bulkhead at the back and attached directly to the floor.... A combination of a high seat and runners probably would have been an issue...
Just been looking at your pic and the Kitspares website.
On there, the seats for the standard Zero look like they have a very deep front squab (especially right at the very front, where the underside of your
knees would rest).
They look far deeper than mine. The GBS runners look twice as deep as mine as well.
Perched on top of that lot, your knees look like they're going to be way too high. I can well imagine that someone your height would indeed catch
their leg on that crossbrace.
Suggest you look at GRP seats and a pad, plus lower runners - that should drop you quite a bit.
HTH
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Originally posted by turnipfarmer
Just been looking at your pic and the Kitspares website.
On there, the seats for the standard Zero look like they have a very deep front squab (especially right at the very front, where the underside of your knees would rest).
They look far deeper than mine. The GBS runners look twice as deep as mine as well.
Perched on top of that lot, your knees look like they're going to be way too high. I can well imagine that someone your height would indeed catch their leg on that crossbrace.
Suggest you look at GRP seats and a pad, plus lower runners - that should drop you quite a bit.
HTH
(p.s. why cant you rotate pictures in the photo archive...they were the right way up when I uploaded)
OK - here's my stats...
From the floor to the top of the seat squab is 20cm
From the floor to the bottom of the crossbrace is 33cm
So I've got 13cm clearance, but that's on a car with a lowered floor - without that it would be slightly less.
How does that compare with yours?
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Originally posted by turnipfarmer
OK - here's my stats...
From the floor to the top of the seat squab is 20cm
From the floor to the bottom of the crossbrace is 33cm
So I've got 13cm clearance, but that's on a car with a lowered floor - without that it would be slightly less.
How does that compare with yours?
The cushion that's frontmost on the seat. The one that the underside of your knees rest on.
What's the height at the very front of that?
They look like cobra 7 seats on low runners
Strikes me the problem is the brace not the seating
I some times go out in a MNR and they have a tube going diagonal forward parallel with the floor it makes a nice shelf too look at a mnr chassis
Have a look at the second photo on this link
http://bassettsbuilddiary.blogspot.co.uk/2007_12_01_archive.html
Jacko
[Edited on 1/1/17 by jacko]
here you can see a GBS customer sitting in the car and it looks like his shin is touching the mentioned chassis tube.
for me it looks like a tall driver, with the seat adjusted more backwards, wont face this problem.
(pic borrowed from GBS-page, but face blured)
[Edited on 9/1/17 by alfas]
I'd be chopping that out if it was mine, looks like a leg breaker in an impact that would force you forward.
GBS seems to follow the "great" engineering route that RobinHood has started...
see also here:
http://3-2-1-gbs-zero.blogspot.de/2015/08/suspension-issues-put-dampener-on.html
There is an active set of members in the Leicester area on Rhocar, worth signing up there and seeing if you can have a look at some of the others cars.