Ok due to working abroad i am not the one screwing this together but my chassis arrived at the Scottish Kit Car Center and the build has began.
Inboard front Shocks
Took the option of a Half cage
Test Fit of the Engine and doing some bracket work for fuel lines, ECU etc before powder coating.
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You have the foot well shorter on the N/S so why are you not moving it engine back to it ?
With a bec I always thought it was the wiser option to get a bit of weight up over the front end to help turn in? Also they tend to be slightly rear weight biased. Mine is pushed well forward.
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Originally posted by jacko
You have the foot well shorter on the N/S so why are you not moving it engine back to it ?
May be wise to get that chassis treated/powder coated before starting the build?
Once some brackets and small bits of welding are done the engine is coming out and its going to be powder coated.
[Edited on 7/7/13 by hkp57]
Before you fit the shocks I'd recommend you get them balanced on procomp's shock dyno, and fit rose jointed rear suspension. They are both jobs which are so much easier to do during the build.
Update -
Engine loom cleaned up and brackets fitted.
Chassis powder Coated ready to build now.
quote:
Originally posted by sdh2903
With a bec I always thought it was the wiser option to get a bit of weight up over the front end to help turn in? Also they tend to be slightly rear weight biased. Mine is pushed well forward.
quote:
Originally posted by hkp57
Update -
Engine loom cleaned up and brackets fitted.
Not sure why MK do that with engine angle, theres plenty of room to get it parallel??
TimC
I don't have a definitive answer but based on my engineering understanding and the proven track record of MK I would say the following.
To have the gearbox output inline with the diff flange would mean moving the engine even further towards the near side of the chassis due to the
offset between the crank center and gearbox flange (not sure this is physically possible without moving the top chassis rail)
To have a dead straight prop-shaft is probably the worst thing you could do to the bearings in the UJ, they need a bit of misalignment to make the
bearing caps work and self lubricate or they will self destruct.
Provided the diff and gearbox are parallel in at least one plane (both vertical) I don't see this as being a problem, the included angle on all
three universal joints as this is a 2 piece prop should not exceed the manufacturers tolerance 7deg misalignment there should be no issue. The
universal joint does not know if the 7deg is created because the engine has been rotated around its horizontal axis or if its due to a height change
in the drive train. All the UJ knows is it has to deal with 7deg included angle provided the engine and diff flanges are plumb to each other.
Maybe Danny can pitch in here
Health check on the engine.
Out with the standard clutch
In with a new set of plates
All back together with uprated springs
Sump off and check the bottom end, looked good
Baffle plate fitted
Swinging pickup fitted
Mmmmm Billet
Bolted up.
Floor in place with brake pipes, fuel lines and wiring harness.
Engine back in and Loom installed.
Next is wishbones, shocks etc .
Builder is being delayed waiting on parts to be delivered.
Waiting for uprights and rocker arm bearings from MK
Diff in place, rear wishbones and shocks dry fit up.
I know its a bit early in the build but it is Christmas. I made up some ai files copying the MK badges, had them done in real carbon backgrounds and
chrome vinyl print.
they were then coated in resin to give the domed effect. Pictures don't do them justice they turned out great
Looking good.
Presume your going for a reverse box?As I can't see the mounts for the electric reverse motor
How do you adjust your shocks whilst they're in situ? they look almost impossible to get to?!
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Originally posted by CosKev3
Looking good.
Presume your going for a reverse box?As I can't see the mounts for the electric reverse motor
quote:
Originally posted by yellowcab
How do you adjust your shocks whilst they're in situ? they look almost impossible to get to?!
Hi hkp
Yes I can see the shocks were only thrown in for the photograph, Yes I can see the bolts are loose and are not tight, Yes I can see that there are no
spacers, nor nuts, and Yes I can even see that the rocker arms have no bearings in.
However, my original 'interested' question still stands:
"How do you adjust these front shocks when they're in situ? they look almost impossible to get to?"
Don't be so defensive, with your 'if you look close enough' comments.
I was genuinely intrigued how, at the side of the road, or in the pits on track - would you get to the adjusters on the shock absorbers, and whether
you intending on mounting them with the adjustments knobs at the top of the shock absorbers, or at the bottom, and whether they'll be facing
forward, or towards the rear of the car.
Please keep open minded, this is an open forum with lots of like minded individuals and enthusiasts, and no matter how perfect a car may be, every one
is entitled to suggest new ways of doing things, I've learnt shed loads from people commenting on my build thread.
[Edited on 7/1/14 by yellowcab]
quote:
Originally posted by hkp57
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Looking good.
Presume your going for a reverse box?As I can't see the mounts for the electric reverse motor
It is going to have an electric reverse. stay tuned!
quote:
Originally posted by yellowcab
Please keep open minded, this is an open forum with lots of like minded individuals and enthusiasts, and no matter how perfect a car may be, every one is entitled to suggest new ways of doing things, I've learnt shed loads from people commenting on my build thread.
[Edited on 7/1/14 by yellowcab]
Assembling Front hubs and Brakes.
Rear Brakes Built
Time to work out the layout.
A few little jobs done, so just some random pictures
Coming together
Pretty sure the front shocks will need fitting the correct way though, read on here they are not designed to be used upside down and it will knacker
them?
Reverse Gear and Tank sat in place
Engine Back Out and Radiator on.
Nova Racing dry sump kit.
I just couldn't live with commiting so much money to a Busa engine then use a wet sump with a swinging pick up.
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[Edited on 14/6/14 by hkp57]
Started to layout Dash panel and the transmission tunnel panels.
[Edited on 14/6/14 by hkp57]
Dash looks good, is it a MK one?
What are your plans to get through iva with clocks in middle?
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Dash looks good, is it a MK one?
What are your plans to get through iva with clocks in middle?
quote:
Originally posted by hkp57
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Dash looks good, is it a MK one?
What are your plans to get through iva with clocks in middle?
Everything is being sourced by Andy at the Scottish Kit Car Centre but I think it is an MK supply.
I didn't know there is an issue with clocks in the middle as I have seen a lot out there like that including Andy's own car.
See what you mean now, I thought you meant as they were in the centre was the issue for view.
Well for the radius Andy is sure it will be fine as in others he has built
Must be a lenient tester he uses!Or he fits some sort of panel over the clocks for IVA test only?
As a m8 of mine has failed radius test on bike clock edges.
Some progress made now, had a little setback with the wheels. They arrived from Image and the powder coating was poorly finished from very rough
casting underneath and strange ripples and creases in the finish.
To be fair to Image wheels though, they arranged for them to be collected by their courier. They were re-finished in a few days and sent back. Great
service but quality control should never have let them out of the building.
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Final assembly and wiring of the dash well on its way now.
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First Side panel offered up for fitting.
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Helmet ready for the first drive lol
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I recognize the dash clocks I had fun setting them up. You won't have the Suzuki FI/Eobd warnings any more with those by the way. So if a
sensor or something goes you'll have no warning.
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The original engine harness still has all the conections in place, time to time I will hook up the original clocks and check for fault codes.
Well thats the plan anyway.
Good idea, let me know if you get stuck with the koso
quote:
Originally posted by hkp57
The original engine harness still has all the conections in place, time to time I will hook up the original clocks and check for fault codes.
Well thats the plan anyway.
quote:
Originally posted by hkp57
Helmet ready for the first drive lol
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Paul Dalloway of GRAF-X CUSTOM PAINT did it for me, it also has more art work on the back. Paul does an amazing job and the finish is perfect, price
really depends on the base helmet you choose and Simpson being the higher end at 650.
Check out his web site for offers - http://www.graf-x.co.uk/
Here is the back
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Originally posted by beaver34
quote:
Originally posted by hkp57
Helmet ready for the first drive lol
Looks great, how much and where from?
Dopdog - 8/9/14 at 03:28 PMSo how will you adjust the front shocks?
Minicooper - 8/9/14 at 05:28 PMquote:
Originally posted by Dopdog
So how will you adjust the front shocks?
Take the bonnet off and adjust them, am I missing something?
David
Dopdog - 8/9/14 at 05:40 PMShould have been a bit clearer, did you end up leaving the shocks upside down and was this OK or did you swap them over?
hkp57 - 8/9/14 at 08:24 PMquote:
Originally posted by Dopdog
Should have been a bit clearer, did you end up leaving the shocks upside down and was this OK or did you swap them over?
I left them upside down but as you see its not rolling yet, this seems to be a topic thats been around a lot so I just copied how MK put their own cars together as seen on their Facebook page.
I think its been covered on this site also where Pro-tech also say its fine like this.
MK Sportscars
hkp57 - 24/9/14 at 07:06 AMSide panels on, Front suspension back on and electrical system powered up.
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mk85 - 24/9/14 at 07:12 AMAre you he side panels mk ones
hkp57 - 24/9/14 at 08:51 AMquote:
Originally posted by mk85
Are you he side panels mk ones
Yes Supplied through MK
Dopdog - 24/9/14 at 12:05 PMLooking Good like the wheels
hkp57 - 25/9/14 at 04:51 PMWith the car on the ground and roughly setting ride height and camber to allow aligning the rear wheel arches we found the offside drive shaft was too long so out it came.
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Fit up the nose cone next
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hkp57 - 11/10/14 at 05:25 PM
hkp57 - 13/1/15 at 08:23 AMBeen a while without an update.
We didnt want a hole in the bonnet so here was the Mk1 intake with a panel filter
Paperwork is off to get the IVA date.
We did get the engine running after sorting out resistor values that we had that were wrong.
Small oil leak to cure then its ready to go, the Video to follow :-)
hkp57 - 31/1/15 at 11:10 AMBecause the wings and scuttle panel and aero screen finish of the carbon varied so much it looked odd.
So we decided to wrap them in 3M vinyl which came out pretty good on the test pieces so we are doing the rest ready for final fit and IVA time.
Wrapped 2
Wrapped 3
Wrapped 1
mk85 - 31/1/15 at 03:39 PMThey look nice with a slightly dull finish instead of a high gloss
hkp57 - 31/1/15 at 07:47 PMYeah thats what I thought, a little different and should be resistant to the stone chips a bit better
dubzter - 31/1/15 at 08:10 PMlooking nice, like the white and black/carbon look. Looks like SKCC are doing a grand job.
hkp57 - 5/2/15 at 11:14 AMThe final push now on, IVA date set for 3rd March.
dubzter - 5/2/15 at 12:52 PMquote:
Originally posted by hkp57
The final push now on, IVA date set for 3rd March.
Where do they do the IVA is in Edinburgh?
hkp57 - 5/2/15 at 03:48 PMquote:
Originally posted by dubzter
quote:
Originally posted by hkp57
The final push now on, IVA date set for 3rd March.
Where do they do the IVA is in Edinburgh?
No, i don't think there is a place in Edinburgh.
Think they use Livingston
CosKev3 - 5/2/15 at 04:28 PMLooking forward to finished pics
3rd of March is my bday
dubzter - 5/2/15 at 09:39 PMquote:
Originally posted by hkp57
quote:
Originally posted by dubzter
quote:
Originally posted by hkp57
The final push now on, IVA date set for 3rd March.
Where do they do the IVA is in Edinburgh?
No, i don't think there is a place in Edinburgh.
Think they use Livingston
So looks like the only places in Scotland are Aberdeen or Livingston, both pretty far from me, saying that I haven't started building yet but still........
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/393014/iva-test-stations-and-potfs.pdf
hkp57 - 6/2/15 at 06:05 AMquote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Looking forward to finished pics
Me too, I am stuck in Angola on the Congo until mid April.
At least that gives the snow time to clear
[Edited on 6/2/15 by hkp57]
CosKev3 - 6/2/15 at 09:01 AMquote:
Originally posted by hkp57
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Looking forward to finished pics
Me too, I am stuck in Angola on the Congo until mid April.
At least that gives the snow time to clear
[Edited on 6/2/15 by hkp57]
Wow, what do you do for a living?
hkp57 - 6/2/15 at 09:58 AMSite Construction Manager for Bechtel.
Description
http://www.bechtel.com/projects/angola-liquefied-natural-gas-plant/
hkp57 - 20/2/15 at 05:38 PMSome more random pics of the final assembly progress with IVA date closing fast.
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hkp57 - 20/2/15 at 05:48 PMAfter wrapping the scuttle its time for assembly and clean up of wiring loom etc.
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dubzter - 20/2/15 at 07:48 PMlooking good, not long now
theduck - 21/2/15 at 10:12 PMquote:
Originally posted by hkp57
The final push now on, IVA date set for 3rd March.
how long was it from sending off your paperwork until you got your test date?
hkp57 - 22/2/15 at 06:57 PMquote:
Originally posted by theduck
quote:
Originally posted by hkp57
The final push now on, IVA date set for 3rd March.
how long was it from sending off your paperwork until you got your test date?
2.5 weeks
hkp57 - 23/2/15 at 06:10 PM
CosKev3 - 23/2/15 at 06:51 PMNice
Is it a mk rear diffuser?
Are those indicators on mirrors staying on for iva?
hkp57 - 23/2/15 at 07:07 PMquote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Nice
Is it a mk rear diffuser?
Are those indicators on mirrors staying on for iva?
Yes to both questions, SKC say they will be fine
CosKev3 - 23/2/15 at 07:24 PMquote:
Originally posted by hkp57
quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Nice
Is it a mk rear diffuser?
Are those indicators on mirrors staying on for iva?
Yes to both questions, SKC say they will be fine
There will be no sight of those indicators from any angle further back than the scuttle though?
If they pass IVA they must have a gentlemans agreement with the IVA tester!!!!
theduck - 23/2/15 at 07:27 PMThe wing mirror indicators, are they your front indicators or side repeaters? They should be fine as front indicators but would fail as side repeaters.
hkp57 - 23/2/15 at 07:32 PMI can't answer on both points, I am in Africa right now and put it in the hands of the builder.
These are the repeaters.
CosKev3 - 23/2/15 at 07:39 PMquote:
Originally posted by theduck
The wing mirror indicators, are they your front indicators or side repeaters? They should be fine as front indicators but would fail as side repeaters.
Yeah they would,I presumed they were side repeaters as the MK nose cone has cut outs for front indicators.
No side repeaters on either of the arches,unless they are yet to cut the holes and fit
theduck - 23/2/15 at 08:12 PMWill fail rearwards visibility looking as side repeaters, unless I am missing something?
CosKev3 - 23/2/15 at 08:15 PMquote:
Originally posted by theduck
Will fail rearwards visibility looking as side repeaters, unless I am missing something?
Yeah deffo fail if side repeaters, need to be able to view them from the rear from 5degrees to 60 degrees from the side of car.
only places you can fit them now to pass iva is on edge of rear arch or on front cycle wing.
hkp57 - 24/2/15 at 05:29 PM
hkp57 - 27/2/15 at 02:49 PMVideo clip of Engine first start
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Dopdog - 27/2/15 at 07:27 PMlove the iva steering wheel
hkp57 - 27/2/15 at 07:31 PMquote:
Originally posted by Dopdog
love the iva steering wheel
Sets off the interior perfect lol, along with the wire tether on the fuel cap
Dopdog - 27/2/15 at 07:34 PMI did wonder what that was for
CosKev3 - 27/2/15 at 11:00 PMLooks really nice
Will be interesting to see if it passes IVA at the first go.
Two things for sure should fail,fog light is not vertical,and as previously discussed the side repeaters are not visible in the angles required.
Not sure the front indicators will pass either,when you look at your pic on a angle drivers side front the front indicator is not visible.
MK have shaped parts in the moulding for them,why have they not fitted them there?
hkp57 - 3/3/15 at 11:54 AMCelebration time and thanks to SKC it passed first time.
Now to take the IVA bits off and add the finishing touches.
[Edited on 3/3/15 by hkp57]
zx12r dug - 3/3/15 at 12:10 PMWell done on the pass .I wish I lived closer to Scotland id get skc to take mine for test..
CosKev3 - 3/3/15 at 12:48 PMquote:
Originally posted by hkp57
Celebration time and thanks to SKC it passed first time.
Now to take the IVA bits off and add the finishing touches.
[Edited on 3/3/15 by hkp57]
nice one.
For people that have to iva there own cars can you confirm it was tested as per the pictures you last put up?
Cause if it was its a wee take tbh and skc must get preferential treatment at there local test centre
hkp57 - 3/3/15 at 01:59 PMI am only going by what I am told due to still being at work in Angola, SKC said it was fine and I trust them. Said the pictures do not reflect it to clearly but the lenses on the repeaters wrap around far enough and the lenses on the fog light were profiled to allow for the slope of the back panel.
He wasn't sure how it would go either due to it being a new tester at the station, being a VOSA station and risking there credibility I would very much doubt they would risk that for a kit car.
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Dopdog - 3/3/15 at 02:01 PMNice one looking forward to some new pictures and of course a new steering wheel shoto
raptor700 - 3/3/15 at 02:44 PMWe'll done looks good.
What did it weigh in at just curious ?
How come you are using a large car battery ?
Thanks nick
CosKev3 - 3/3/15 at 04:06 PMquote:
Originally posted by hkp57
I am only going by what I am told due to still being at work in Angola, SKC said it was fine and I trust them. Said the pictures do not reflect it to clearly but the lenses on the repeaters wrap around far enough and the lenses on the fog light were profiled to allow for the slope of the back panel.
He wasn't sure how it would go either due to it being a new tester at the station, being a VOSA station and risking there credibility I would very much doubt they would risk that
it's a great result for you
but the examiner obviously is either newly qualified and not the best,or a slack arse!!
Not a sniff those side repeaters are passable, not trying to be funny but its a wee take when you see some of the petty things people's cars get failed on!!!
hkp57 - 3/3/15 at 04:38 PMquote:
Originally posted by raptor700
We'll done looks good.
What did it weigh in at just curious ?
How come you are using a large car battery ?
Thanks nick
I am using the big battery for two reasons, first being the electric reverse. Second reason is being a biker I have a nice heated jacket to wear and with the passenger maybe also wearing one I wanted a bit of an energy buffer. The 2 12v sockets on the transmission tunnel is for powering those.
zx12r dug - 3/3/15 at 05:49 PMWhat Iva bits are there to take off only the steering wheel. Would like to see a picture of exhaust cover
theduck - 3/3/15 at 06:05 PMAgree with the comments re indicators and fog light. No way they are a pass, and this photo proves the side repeaters arent!
Click here for photo
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iii. (SIDE REPEATER) To the rear between
5degree and 60degree outboard.
They dont even fulfill the outer requirement
Question this raises, what else isnt right?
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hkp57 - 3/3/15 at 06:23 PMquote:
Originally posted by zx12r dug
What Iva bits are there to take off only the steering wheel. Would like to see a picture of exhaust cover
Only things they are doing is the steering wheel, move the front indicators to the nose cone, fit a pair of canard fins to the nose cone ans fit my GPS mount to the dash.
As far as I know there was no cover on the exhaust.
raptor700 - 3/3/15 at 07:32 PMquote:
Originally posted by hkp57
quote:
Originally posted by raptor700
We'll done looks good.
What did it weigh in at just curious ?
How come you are using a large car battery ?
Thanks nick
I am using the big battery for two reasons, first being the electric reverse. Second reason is being a biker I have a nice heated jacket to wear and with the passenger maybe also wearing one I wanted a bit of an energy buffer. The 2 12v sockets on the transmission tunnel is for powering those.
Ah I see, each to there own , the reverse does suck a lot of power especially like me if you were reversing up a drive. The car battery will add a lot of weight tho.
I went for a reverse box this time as I had a few problems with the electric reverse .
What did the car weigh in at do you know ?
Thanks nick
hkp57 - 3/3/15 at 08:35 PMNo I didn't get the weight yet
hkp57 - 15/4/15 at 03:29 PMShort Video of a quick shakedown run on a private Road
dubzter - 15/4/15 at 07:55 PMcongrats on the pass, doesn't matter what anyone else thinks it passed and that's that. Bet you are itching to get back and get a drive.
hkp57 - 15/4/15 at 08:06 PMquote:
Originally posted by dubzter
Bet you are itching to get back and get a drive.
Too right, I get home on Sunday, can't come too soon
Rossmcleod - 29/5/15 at 08:54 PMCongrats mate
Car looks stunning
dubzter - 29/5/15 at 09:06 PMquote:
Originally posted by hkp57
quote:
Originally posted by dubzter
Bet you are itching to get back and get a drive.
Too right, I get home on Sunday, can't come too soon
So, what's the verdict and where are the vids/photos?
hkp57 - 30/5/15 at 10:29 AMWell things didn't quite go so smoothly with the DVLA as it had with VOSA, in short I ran into the same issues others seem to have had lately with DVLA enforcing the rules that have in reality always been there but they required a NOVA declaration letter.
So with all the papers being returned to me there was no way to drive the car on the road last time I was home.
So it was on with plan B, we loaded her up on the trailer and booked into a local sprint track who were holding a test day, so after giving the Kames Motorsport complex a more than resonable 35 quid they allowed us out on track all day.
Shake downs are exactly that, bed things in and find any issues. the first one to show up was a sticky throttle, when waiting in line to get my first turn on track and the engine idling away and warming all the fluids the idle speed picked up a little, so I gave it a little blip and there she stayed at 5000rpm.
Back to the paddock area and I found once warm the butterflys on the throttle bodies and a tiny notchy feel just off of idle, so as a bike normally has a return cable to pull it closed we decided there was not enough strength in the standard return spring.
So with some help from one of the forum guys on here who kindly gave me a spring he had in his van we fashioned up a fix and got it going again. Thanks Alastair (Theprisoner)
So we joined the que and then headed out for our first run on the track.
After a couple of solo runs I went out for a run with my better half in the passenger seat when we ran into problem number 2. on the two right handers at the high end of the track the rear wheel arch was rubbing on the tyre.
hkp57 - 30/5/15 at 10:46 AMSo as we got more seat time on the track and started to get used to things i found the ride to be very compliant, not as harsh as i pictured in my mind, the brakes as to be expected with no servo felt hard but once over the initial period of getting used to them they were well balanced and plenty stopping power.
On the handling front there were no quirks to catch me out but i was not pushing on too much as the thought of the throttle sticking again was still in the back of my mind.
All in it was a good day, minor oil leak at the dry sump tank but no big deal. Another niggle was down in the drivers foot well where the transmision tunnel panel finished there was an edge that my shoe caught on from time to time leading to some interesting launches off the line.
Some pointless pictures and a video clip.
hkp57 - 30/5/15 at 10:52 AMAnd finally we got everything through from DVLA, V5C arrived in the post with a brand new 2015 plate
SF15 ###
So insurance with Adrian Flux is now sorted, get it out on the road soon
CosKev3 - 30/5/15 at 12:30 PMGreat pics
Especially the rubber burning one with the arch contact!
Will you go for the MK wider rear arches?
hkp57 - 30/5/15 at 01:19 PMquote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Great pics
Especially the rubber burning one with the arch contact!
Will you go for the MK wider rear arches?
The wider ones may be the next option but you can see the nearside arch was not perfectly aligned to the centerline of the wheel, we have remounted it a bit better now but still to test it.
Also the ride height needs setup better when we corner weight it.
dubzter - 30/5/15 at 07:36 PMlooking good
Rossmcleod - 30/5/15 at 10:10 PMLooks stunning mate
gaz_gaz - 31/5/15 at 07:33 AMGreat looking car. Well done on seeing it through and now it's time to reap the rewards.
Look at the niggles others have on shakedown and you'll realise that you've got off lightly.
Fun times ahead!!
hkp57 - 31/5/15 at 02:29 PM
Thanks guys