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Alignment of engine
Andy_B - 15/2/11 at 08:49 PM

Anbody got any tips or tricks to get the engine aligned properly...been using spirit levels on the cam housing for horizontal and block for vertical ...would this be ok or is there a better/easier/more accurate way ? DOHC twinky !!


designer - 15/2/11 at 08:56 PM

The top of the cylinder bloke is the usual referance when leveling an engine, and the centreline of the engine must be parallel to the centrline of the car.

Also, it is acceptably for an engine to lean back a maximum of 4 degrees.


Andy_B - 15/2/11 at 09:08 PM

Right thanks so i am on the right lines then...cheers


daviep - 15/2/11 at 09:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by designer
The top of the cylinder bloke is the usual referance when leveling an engine, and the centreline of the engine must be parallel to the centrline of the car.

Also, it is acceptably for an engine to lean back a maximum of 4 degrees.


Can you explain the origin of these "rules" please, are they specific to this engine or to all engines?

Cheers
Davie


hillbillyracer - 15/2/11 at 09:28 PM

Assuming this a RWD application the big thing is the propshaft joint angles & whether you've a live axle or a diff fixed to the chassis will influence this too. I've tried to find a link to a good description but not found one in a hurry, the basics are that the flanges to which the prop bolts either end are parallel to each other, this means prop joint angles at the front & rear should be the opposite of each other. You'll get a vibration if both the UJ angles bend the same way.

I'm sure someone on here will decribe it better, mabye get as pic of it which will show it better.

As for the engine itself I dont think the angle which the engine sits at is too important beyond that it doesnt get oil drain down/pickup problems & the float chamber of the carbs needs to be at the right angle if it's not injected.


The 2nd pic down on the left on this page shows it:
http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/tech/driveline/

This applies whether it's veiwed from the side or from above/below. I dont think that's it's critical the flanges are perfectly parllel but the angles need to go the opposite way so it cancels vibration out.


paulf - 15/2/11 at 09:29 PM

If it looks level by eye then it will be fine, if it was that critical you would not be able to drive on anything but a level road.
Paul.


Andy_B - 15/2/11 at 09:47 PM

I think i read somewhere about not having the gearbox and diff flanges aligned exactly aas this causses "brinning" i think ...basically causes premature UJ failure...think i will string a line down the chassis ...get the frame plum then eyeball the engine...see how that looks...


rick q - 15/2/11 at 10:53 PM

For what it's worth, lots of clubbies have the engine offset to one side to give more footroom on the "important" side.

Mine certainly is [see below]. This also means the gearbox can't be line with the diff [i.e. flanges can't be parallel]. To make it "worse" in mine the diff is bolted to the chassis [deDion] which means the universal joints in the propshaft are always going through the same torture.

Mines been on the road since 1995 without any problems!!!


Mr Whippy - 16/2/11 at 12:07 AM

engine leveling was more for the carb float chamber, even then it made little difference. The roads are hardly level anyway...


zetec - 16/2/11 at 09:40 AM

Mines also offset a small amout to allow the oil filter to miss the steering, 10,000 miles later and no issues or vibration.


mrwibble - 16/2/11 at 10:48 AM

there was a good thread on here about prop and diff flanges a while back.


Andy_B - 16/2/11 at 07:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rick q
For what it's worth, lots of clubbies have the engine offset to one side to give more footroom on the "important" side.

Mine certainly is [see below]. This also means the gearbox can't be line with the diff [i.e. flanges can't be parallel]. To make it "worse" in mine the diff is bolted to the chassis [deDion] which means the universal joints in the propshaft are always going through the same torture.

Mines been on the road since 1995 without any problems!!!




That is a stunning looking car !! you may have made my mind up on the red colour scheme...but with black wings....