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Ninehigh

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:11 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by blakep82
given a choice between those two.. i'll take herpes thanks lol

looking up some info the ford cosworth is nearly 25 years old now.

bugatti made this car as a sort of technical exercise to prove they could. but when you see a ford focus tuned giving that much power from a 2 litre engine, you sort of wonder if it was worth it. they could have got a lot more power surely? or does all the fancy stuff they've thrown at it mean its more reliable than that cosworth, will the bugatti go a lot further between engine rebuilds, will that cosworth only last a few races before being rebuilt etc


Yeah the Veyron would be far more reliable. The technical excercise was to get over 250mph in comfort wasn't it? How fast in straight line speed is the focus?






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Steve G

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:16 PM Reply With Quote
800bhp is all great pub talk - but i bet its got a hoooooge turbo and drives like an on/off switch. Probably a fairly narrow power band once it does manage to get spooled up - no doubt totally useless on the road.

Veyron for me please

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Ninehigh

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:20 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by Steve G
800bhp is all great pub talk - but i bet its got a hoooooge turbo and drives like an on/off switch. Probably a fairly narrow power band once it does manage to get spooled up - no doubt totally useless on the road.

Veyron for me please


Then again you never know, there could always be a low pressure turbo to cover the big one's lag...






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Steve G

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:27 PM Reply With Quote
Possibly - but doubt it would be needed on a race car that no doubt had a close ratio box and doesnt really need the power low down.

So what racing was it then Blake?? 800bhp Cossie Focus's sounds like the sort of thing you'd see at the Rallycross.

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blakep82

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:35 PM Reply With Quote
it was in the northern sports and super slaoons. so there was
-2 focuses, 700 and 800 bhp 4wd, 2
-mk3 fiesta in similar spec, not sure what power but it was 4wd with big turbo,
-a few 7s, with cosworths and vauxhalls
can't really remember what else. really just a mix of cars that don't fit into anything else.





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cd.thomson

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:40 PM Reply With Quote
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Originally posted by blakep82
i'm just trying to work out how to get 400bhp out of my x20xev now... not straight away, but in time, it would be nice...


I know a guy with a 450bhp c20xe so I wouldnt rule that out...





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blakep82

posted on 16/6/09 at 09:42 PM Reply With Quote


is that with turbos and stuff though? don't think i've got room for turbos





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Antnicuk

posted on 17/6/09 at 07:58 AM Reply With Quote
looking at those tyres, i would its drag racing





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mcerd1

posted on 17/6/09 at 08:29 AM Reply With Quote
I've seen a Mk6 fiesta with cossie 4x4 running gear & engine - I think they were claiming 600bhp

and wans't there a pug 106 in PPC mag with 4x4 and a 400bhp cossie

and there are always the 400bhp 4x4 puma's too.....

...and all the cossie powered kitcars


[Edited on 17/6/09 by mcerd1]





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tootall

posted on 17/6/09 at 09:37 AM Reply With Quote
hear is a link from last year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r26QTo-O5Hc





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tootall

posted on 17/6/09 at 09:42 AM Reply With Quote
and this " target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SQsz4iJ84w





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tootall

posted on 17/6/09 at 09:47 AM Reply With Quote
think this is the fiesta ya was on about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__NSkl5ffQc





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tootall

posted on 17/6/09 at 09:57 AM Reply With Quote
thats what 750bhp does to ya car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL9JYD0jY3E





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mcerd1

posted on 17/6/09 at 12:25 PM Reply With Quote
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think this is the fiesta ya was on about http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__NSkl5ffQc


not sure, the one I saw was a fully prep'd for rally cross
I was in one of the mags a while ago (and the compulsary youtube video's ofcourse) but I think I saw it heading up to knockhill after that...





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blakep82

posted on 17/6/09 at 12:38 PM Reply With Quote
evo engined fiesta (fievo) at knockhill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7yK2Lab4MU&feature=related





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NS Dev

posted on 19/6/09 at 06:33 AM Reply With Quote
..........sorry but.....just buy an Ultima!!!!

Considerably quicker than a veyron (proven! )

Lower running costs.

Simple engine with easy to buy parts.

Carburettor, no fuel injection or anything much else to go wrong.

WAY lighter than a veyron.

With twin turbos, as being built my John Sleath at the mo, makes 1500 hp, none of this poxy 1000hp rubbish, and still perfectly reliable over long distance.

Build an 800hp one for around 45k or buy it for 80k................................

no brainer really





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