stevebubs
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 02:47 PM |
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Originally posted by Alan B
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Originally posted by bobinspain
What's been headline news all week? "9/11" ten yr anniversary thereof.
That's the 11th day of the ninth month. Not the way us Brits would normally do it. We say 7/11. Eleventh day of the seventh month.
Just because I can't spell Armageddon, it's not the end of the world !
The biggest thing here that pi**es me off the most is the use of ......"x" year aniversary....there is nothing wrong with the simpler and
correct form of ......"x" th aniversary.
You would never say"it's my 45 year birthday next week"
End of yank bashing...after all I technically am one now.....
Trouble is people celebrate week and month anniversaries now, too!!
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Alan B
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 03:12 PM |
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Originally posted by stevebubs
Snipped....
Trouble is people celebrate week and month anniversaries now, too!!
And that's the thing...there are no such thing as aniversaries in fractions of years.......aniversary means "annual reoccurance"
Grrrrrrrrrrrr
Easily pi**ed these days....ought to chill I guess
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plentywahalla
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 07:01 PM |
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Originally posted by bobinspain
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Originally posted by Humbug
As above - I have 24 hour clock selected and it displays correctly
btw "ante-meridian" should be "ante meridiem"
P. Dant
At least have the good grace to check your facts Mr Dant. (P or otherwise).
MERIDIAN. It refers to a line of longitude (imaginary) passing great-circle fashion through the north and south geographic poles.
In the case of am and pm the MERIDIAN in question is that of the Royal Greenwich Observatory. As a matter of fact, our longitude here in Spain
(Castellon) is just about spot on zero.
Regards, Bob. Squadron Leader R E Lee. RAF (ret'd).
Sorry Bob but Mr Dant is correct.
Common usage is 'Ante Meridiem' meaning after the 'peak' or when the sun is at the highest point in the sky i.e. midday. It
has nothing to do with the Greenwich Meridian which is Zero longitude. You can be East or West or the Meridian, but you can only be Ante or Post the
Meridiem
May not have done much flying, but 30,000 miles at sea does teach you something.
[Edited on 15/9/11 by plentywahalla]
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ReMan
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 07:47 PM |
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Originally posted by Fozzie
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Originally posted by ReMan
So why my no display AMPM now, as mentioned I've not changed nothing no sir?
Dunno  .... I have never had the am/pm display,and nope, I've not touched owt ......
Having a bit of trub seeing what our Blake is talking about on that link posted above.....
mind I've an 'edache and only 36 hours post op........
Fozzie
Edit to add....I have found it! ( Blakes link, date difference!.)...
The date format is also an option in each users profile............
[Edited on 15-9-11 by Fozzie]
I don't believe it!!
If this was work I'd have taken a screenshot and posted it, I bet theres one in someones photo gallery and I'm still convinced there are
dark forces at work, come on admit it Chris
www.plusnine.co.uk
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JoelP
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 07:47 PM |
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there is a sign in leeds city centre saying '24 hour access required all day', which i always find most amusing.
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bobinspain
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 08:39 PM |
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For Plentywahalla.
I have to confess never having heard of meridiem in over 1,000,000 miles of flying, using astro (including a 'Merpass' sun fix on the way
to Gan, 73degrees 10minutes E, 0041mins S.) and many sun/moon fixes etc. (in a VC10 at 480kts) and circumnavigating the North Geographic pole in a
Britannia etc. The word doesn't appear in either Cassell's or Collin's full English dictionary.
Mr Dant it transpires refers to meridiem correctly however. I apologise to him.
I am aware of the point you make re' am/pm and GMT, utilising as I had to, air almanac and astro reduction tables in the 70's, before the
advent of GPS.
You learn something new every day.
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blakep82
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 08:45 PM |
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Originally posted by JoelP
there is a sign in leeds city centre saying '24 hour access required all day', which i always find most amusing.
my local tesco is 24hrs 7 days a week, but closed between 2 and 5 on a saturday nite/sunday morning....
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bobinspain
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 09:10 PM |
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Plentywahalla.
Websters and Wiktionary state that the correct terminology for am and pm is ante and post meridan. (Other sources quote meridiem).
Most agree that ante meridiem is used as an adverb as in, "Let's meet at 11am."
Equally, they agree that ante meridian is used adjectivally to denote am.
No wiser really !!!
What is certain is my original observation that there's no such time as (for example) 0455pm.
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MikeR
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 09:31 PM |
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Lets just correct something else ....
AlanB - you're from Preston (*), therefore you're British!
(*) at least thats what i've got a vague memory of you saying.
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Fozzie
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 09:48 PM |
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Originally posted by MikeR
Lets just correct something else ....
AlanB - you're from Preston (*), therefore you're British!
(*) at least thats what i've got a vague memory of you saying.
Surely British could mean any of the countries that make up Great Britain ....?
As Preston is in England....that would make Alan English.
Sorry...but that is something that really makes my blood boil ....being classed as British when infact
Britain is a collection of countries we can't have been born in Britain, but in one of the countries that
comprises Britain, as I'm sure the Scots, Welsh and Irish born will also agree....
Fozzie ....
(Mr P Dantics' cousin) ....
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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Alan B
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 09:58 PM |
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I guess in a way I'm still English although I have US citizenship I did not give up my UK citizenship either...
Yup, originally from sunny Preston....(well it was one day, I'm sure...)
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Macbeast
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| posted on 15/9/11 at 10:21 PM |
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Meridiem is Latin for midday in the accusative case. So am - before midday: pm after midday.
If " am / pm " refers to the Greenwich Prime Meridian, what does a Canadian mean when he says " meet you at 2 pm " ? 09.00
Canadian clock time ?
Now get back to building cars !!
[Edited on 15/9/11 by Macbeast]
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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jeffw
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| posted on 16/9/11 at 05:51 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by bobinspain
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Originally posted by stevebubs
?? Where are you looking? I can only see 24 hour time stamps on posts, no am/pm.
Steve.
Check any post-lunchtime, (post-meridian, p.m.) posting, either in this list or the main index.
Once we are past 12 noon, (1200hrs), we get all p.m. times listed as: '0' something or another p.m. It's the only time I've
EVER come across it, as it's wrong !!.
So 3.15pm (civilian notation), or 1515hrs (24 hr clock or military), becomes erroneously, 0315pm. which doesn't exist (except in the Locost
Forum).
0315hrs does exist. It's 3.15 in the morning 3.15am. (ante-meridian: before the meridian).
It's mixing the military 24 hr clock with the civilian am/pm clock and it' plain incorrect. You end up with a
'bastard-hybrid.' (my words).
I may not know much about cars, but with 3,500 military flying hours behind me, trust me! I'm correct on this one.
My point being that on a superb website such as this one, a glaring, yet simply corrected error could do with addressing.
('nuff said).
Regards, Bob.
Should your example not be 0315Z ?
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Macbeast
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| posted on 16/9/11 at 06:13 AM |
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Should your example not be 0315Z ?
Only if you're talking about GMT
We're now on GMT + 1 = A
[Edited on 16/9/11 by Macbeast]
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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bobinspain
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| posted on 16/9/11 at 07:20 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Macbeast
Meridiem is Latin for midday in the accusative case. So am - before midday: pm after midday.
If " am / pm " refers to the Greenwich Prime Meridian, what does a Canadian mean when he says " meet you at 2 pm " ? 09.00
Canadian clock time ?
Now get back to building cars !!
[Edited on 15/9/11 by Macbeast]
I was being case-specific, referring to the times posted on this site, based in UK. So far as I know, I'm not posting from Canada, Timbucktu nor
anywhere else for that matter, but as I explained from Castellon, (on the Greenwich meridian).
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Macbeast
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| posted on 16/9/11 at 07:44 AM |
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Still wrong. Times shown here are BST ( GMT + 1 ).
How on earth did you manage to find a small island in the middle of the Indian Ocean ?
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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scudderfish
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| posted on 16/9/11 at 08:20 AM |
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quote:
Originally posted by Fozzie
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Originally posted by MikeR
Lets just correct something else ....
AlanB - you're from Preston (*), therefore you're British!
(*) at least thats what i've got a vague memory of you saying.
Surely British could mean any of the countries that make up Great Britain ....?
As Preston is in England....that would make Alan English.
Sorry...but that is something that really makes my blood boil ....being classed as British when infact
Britain is a collection of countries we can't have been born in Britain, but in one of the countries that
comprises Britain, as I'm sure the Scots, Welsh and Irish born will also agree....
Fozzie ....
(Mr P Dantics' cousin) ....
I was born in Britain, I was also born in Wales, I was also born in Clywd, I was also born in Mancot. It's just a matter of resolution as to
how you define it. I class myself as British as I was born in Wales, I grew up in England and I have Scottish parents.
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Fozzie
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| posted on 16/9/11 at 08:33 AM |
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Blimmin 'eck Scuddy ..... 
You were born 4 times ???????
Your poor mum!
Fozzie
[Edited on 16-9-11 by Fozzie]
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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scudderfish
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| posted on 16/9/11 at 08:45 AM |
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scudderfish
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| posted on 16/9/11 at 08:46 AM |
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BTW, Fozzie, you can't count!
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Fozzie
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| posted on 16/9/11 at 09:01 AM |
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Originally posted by scudderfish
BTW, Fozzie, you can't count!
You are quite right........didn't get to bed 'til gone 05:00
Me eyes weren't in right..I shall edit it .....
'Racing is Life!...anything before or after is just waiting'....Steve McQueen
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jeffw
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| posted on 16/9/11 at 10:12 AM |
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Originally posted by Macbeast
Should your example not be 0315Z ?
Only if you're talking about GMT
We're now on GMT + 1 = A
[Edited on 16/9/11 by Macbeast]
My point was that in 'Military' terms time is never refered to as 0315hrs but rather 0315Z for GMT. During my time in the Navy everything
was in Zulu time regardless of local time.
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Macbeast
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| posted on 16/9/11 at 10:31 AM |
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Very sensible too. I've always said the whole world should be on GMT. So what if the Japanese go to work at 0100 Z- the Sun's up.
I'm addicted to brake fluid, but I can stop anytime.
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bobinspain
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| posted on 17/9/11 at 02:46 PM |
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Macbeast.
Not only did I find Gan, but I did so around 80 times en-route to either Singapore or Hong Kong for a 3-5 night stopover at a 5 star hotel accompanied
(often) by a British Airways crew and attendant lovlies.
It was a hard life, but someone had to do it.
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MikeRJ
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| posted on 17/9/11 at 02:58 PM |
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Having a leading zero on a 12 hour clock might be a floggable offence in the military, but it's utterly, completely and blatantly obvious that
04:56pm is the same as 4:56pm. I would love to have so little to worry about that this kind of thing was top of my agenda!
[Edited on 17/9/11 by MikeRJ]
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