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Tidying welds
speedyxjs - 12/2/09 at 05:42 PM

How do you go about it? Most of mine look ok but there are a few untidy ones.


MkII - 12/2/09 at 05:49 PM

best to grind them flat and re-weld .m.


speedyxjs - 12/2/09 at 05:49 PM

Alright. Easy enough


Hellfire - 12/2/09 at 05:54 PM

As long as the weld is ok, why bother? Most of them will never be seen when your car is dressed anyway.

Phil


MkII - 12/2/09 at 05:58 PM

if there out of sight and your confident they are strong you could leave them be.I'm a welder by trade so prob just fussy. m.


speedyxjs - 12/2/09 at 06:21 PM

They are strong enough. I had to cut a couple of the untidy ones to fit the gearbox. Worked up a good sweat trying to cut them


BenB - 12/2/09 at 06:38 PM

Plan A is always grind off and re-welds but don't do too often otherwise you can weaken (through thinning) the underlying material.
Here's my plan B for sheddy looking welds:

Skim body filler over the welds, sand them smooth, spray with high build primer, sand, top coat.

The body filler goes into any crevises and generally smooths out the welds.

It also helps make black satin spayed bodywork look more like powder coat by smoothing out the finer detail.


Ninehigh - 12/2/09 at 07:22 PM

Can't you just sand/grind off the excess? I mean if there's chunks sticking out like a big scab on your leg isn't it just like excess filler in a dent?


norm007 - 12/2/09 at 07:32 PM

You need to lay your hands on some flap discs.
They leave welds as smooth as a babies


MkII - 12/2/09 at 07:36 PM

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I mean if there's chunks sticking out like a big scab on your leg isn't it just like excess filler in a dent?
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we arent making a garden gate here guys
those welds are all thats keeping your arse off the road!


Daddylonglegs - 12/2/09 at 07:48 PM

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Originally posted by norm007
You need to lay your hands on some flap discs.
They leave welds as smooth as a babies


Totally agree, but DON'T buy the cheapies!

I got one from Machine Mart for £7 odd which I thought was a little steep, but I've used it loads of times and it's only just giving up the ghost.

Bought 2 from Screwfix at £3.50 each and they lasted for about 5 or six welds before they were no better than a cotton wool pad!!

You definitley 'gets what you pays for'


Ninehigh - 12/2/09 at 07:55 PM

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Originally posted by MkII
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I mean if there's chunks sticking out like a big scab on your leg isn't it just like excess filler in a dent?
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we arent making a garden gate here guys
those welds are all thats keeping your arse off the road!


Yeah I just meant trim them a bit... Surely a great big lump sticking up isn't going to keep your arse off the road


mr henderson - 12/2/09 at 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by Daddylonglegs


You definitley 'gets what you pays for'


I'm going to offer a rephrase of that

"You don't get more that you pay for, but you sometimes get less"

In other words, if it's cheap it's probably garbage, if it's dear there's a good chance that it will be good (but it might not be)

John


BenB - 12/2/09 at 10:57 PM

Oooooh loving that flap disc action. Only troube is sometimes it's a bit TOO effective and the bit of metal I'm giving the flap love ends up being a bit marginal.... 1.5mm thick box section quite easily becomes 0mm


MkII - 12/2/09 at 11:14 PM

originaly posted by ninehigh
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Yeah I just meant trim them a bit... Surely a great big lump sticking up isn't going to keep your arse off the road
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the point i was making was that if your weld consists of big lumps sticking up you've got to ask if it was capable of keeping your arse off the road or should you grind off and start again.(I'm not having a go at anybodys ability to weld but in 20 years as a welder I've seen welds fail and you dont want that in a car that is probably going to be driven"enthusiastically" . m.


James - 13/2/09 at 12:33 PM

Even if there's no danger caused by a weld breaking, it'd be such a pain in the arse to sort a half buried weld in a built car, it's worth getting them right first time.

Summat like inside the tunnel or something. You'd have to strip half the sodding car out to get to it!

Cheers,
James


907 - 13/2/09 at 07:10 PM

Flap discs are used much flatter than you would use a grinding wheel.

A sort of... "not so steep an angle, angle grinder."


Paul G