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tommy_gsxr - 19/4/09 at 10:26 AM

hi all i am new to the site and am sorry if this in the wrong section.
I am wanting to build a locost car from scratch as in weld the chassis my self arggggg lol with the aim of building a fast road, track car and was trying to get a few pointers rely. i have not decided on a power plant yet, was thinking along the lines of a 2.0 zetec on 45s orrrrrrrr a cossie lump as the dona car is a sierra was thinking 3 birds with 1 stone lol dona car, engine andddd big power lol or would the chassis not be able to handle that kind of power? ohhhhhh i have so many questions and i am more than sure that i will think or more lol, thanks for any advice and coments. will be greatfull for you to shair ya build stories and horror stories and any recomendations. as you can tell i have never build a car lol thanks for takeing the time to read my babble lol. tom


MakeEverything - 19/4/09 at 10:32 AM

You have a U2U message.


tommy_gsxr - 19/4/09 at 10:45 AM

cheers mate, how much do i need to expect for a budget? just at a very ruff idea


big_wasa - 19/4/09 at 10:51 AM

zetec on 45's, good choice there

Link


Hellfire - 19/4/09 at 10:53 AM

Ever considered dropping a bike engine into your chassis?

Phil


tommy_gsxr - 19/4/09 at 10:57 AM

the zetec does sound like a very good option, what kind of power could i expect with the 45s? hummmmmm yeah i thought about a bike engine but things like reverse gear ect??? but i would love a bike engine as i am a bike nut lol


big_wasa - 19/4/09 at 11:03 AM

Power is limited by cams and head.

165bhp ish on a standard engine with carbs or Tb's and a reasonable exhaust.

Tb's, cams and head work and a good exhaust will get you 220bhp

The above is going to cost £££££


tommy_gsxr - 19/4/09 at 11:09 AM

hummmmm thats not bad at all to be honest and they do sound awsome hehehe


adam1985 - 19/4/09 at 11:10 AM

budget should be about £250


MakeEverything - 19/4/09 at 11:28 AM

£250 In 1992!

Chassis (scratch Built) £200 with brackets, excl tools and welder.

Engine £300+ for decent engine

Gearbox £150 Type 9 (unless you find a bargain like i did at £50.

Axle £100+

Hubs £30+ (needing new bearings and a good clean)

Prop Shaft (Made to measure) £150

Wheels £50+

Bodywork & Sheet Ali £150+

Steering Rack (New) £80

Wishbones & Bushes £200+

IVA £450

All in all, probably do-able for under £3k.


big_wasa - 19/4/09 at 11:58 AM

The induction raw is much louder than the exhaust

Budget, much more than you think


tommy_gsxr - 19/4/09 at 02:02 PM

i guess i would need a special rear axel to run a bike engine and reverse gear, any idea on cost and where to get 1 from?


MakeEverything - 19/4/09 at 02:54 PM

Depends where you get it from Paul.
I had almost given up looking for my £50 one, and was about to buy one off an ebay shop for £150 with a guarantee.

In terms of Axle, you dont need a special axle. The output shaft connects to the prop shaft as the normal type 9 gearbox would. The BEC guys will know moreabout this in the BEC forum here.

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Originally posted by Paul TigerB6
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Originally posted by MakeEverything
Gearbox £150 Type 9 (unless you find a bargain like i did at £50.



£150!!!

Dont know anyone who has paid much more than about £50 myself!! Anyone??


adithorp - 19/4/09 at 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by tommy_gsxr
i guess i would need a special rear axel to run a bike engine and reverse gear, any idea on cost and where to get 1 from?


To run a bike engine...
You take off the output sproket and replace with a drive flange, mount the engine longitudinaly, then via a conventional propshaft, to the rear into a normally mounted diff or live axle.
Reverse is either electric powered or a mechanical reverse box fitted between the prop and diff.

adrian


tommy_gsxr - 19/4/09 at 06:02 PM

is there a big cost diffrence between a car engine build vs a bike?


Simon - 19/4/09 at 07:25 PM

Yep, if a bike engine goes pop, you spend the same to replace it it or get it fixed whether it's a £500 banger or £2k busa motor.

Lolocost are doing brand spanking new crate Zetec blacktop engines for £750!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ATB

Simon


stevegough - 19/4/09 at 09:25 PM

Hi! Paul, and welcome to the site - I'm pretty new here too, and finding that the members are very helpful - and much better at finding problems - I thought I was pretty good at that myself!
One place I have found a lot of inspiration and assistance is the photos each person has posted - a picture paints a thousand words takes on a new meaning!
Just click on the small black square in the left columns to access the photo lists.

And Don't be shy - ask whatever you feel you need to.

Best of all - enjoy what you are doing!

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