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tomprescott - 23/9/09 at 05:42 PM

Just took delivery of my aluminium for the flooring and seat backs. I've got 5mm 5bar tread for the floor panels and I intend to seal and rivet them to the chassis rails.

Is silkaflex the best option, or would wunderseal (ala cbs) be suitable? If silkaflex (spelling?) is the ideal wheres the best place to get it? Cheers,
Tom


cd.thomson - 23/9/09 at 05:45 PM

hi tom, i believe people use wunderseal/tiger seal/wurth and sikaflex interchangably.

Im only knowledgable here because i just bought some today

two tubes off ebay cost £11.60 which seemed reasonable. you can possibly get it cheaper from a good motorfactors or building trade specialist.


Flamez - 23/9/09 at 05:46 PM

I used "Wurth" adhesive and large head 4.2 rivets 3" apart.

[Edited on 23-9-09 by Flamez]


tomprescott - 23/9/09 at 05:49 PM

Cool, cheers. I take it that the sealent is also used to bung the centers of the rivets?


jacko - 23/9/09 at 06:02 PM

5mm thick


tomprescott - 23/9/09 at 06:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jacko
5mm thick

Que?


speedyxjs - 23/9/09 at 06:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jacko
5mm thick


Thats what i was thinking. I think most use 2mm ali (although i used 2mm steel as i had loads left)


tomprescott - 23/9/09 at 06:17 PM

Think it was quite expensive, but not sure, my dad ordered it for me as most of my 21st present. Lucky me!


flak monkey - 23/9/09 at 06:19 PM

Bugger 5mm ali!

That'll weigh more than the 1.6mm steel floor!

Mines 2mm plain ali.

Rivet on with sealed end rivets every 50mm max (most decent fasteners places can supply them) and seal with PU adhesive. It'll never come off again, lol.

David


tomprescott - 23/9/09 at 06:23 PM

Its not gonna make a huge difference to weight and will give a nice solid floor!
Cheers for the advice guys, I'll get a tub of something suitable and some rivets tomorrow!

[Edited on 23/9/09 by tomprescott]


jacko - 23/9/09 at 06:35 PM

At work we use 5mm alloy tread plate and i takes 2 people to lift it
2mm only takes 1 hand


Confused but excited. - 23/9/09 at 06:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
quote:
Originally posted by jacko
5mm thick


Thats what i was thinking. I think most use 2mm ali (although i used 2mm steel as i had loads left)


Christ! The world's first sports tank.

Can't wait to see the vid, sounds like it will be awesome.


iank - 23/9/09 at 07:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tomprescott
Its not gonna make a huge difference to weight and will give a nice solid floor!
Cheers for the advice guys, I'll get a tub of something suitable and some rivets tomorrow!

[Edited on 23/9/09 by tomprescott]


You're adding approx 20kg to the weight of the car by using 5mm over 2mm.
Rivets will be rather longer than normal, it's probably worth doing some research on their strength.

It will also be a complete b*st*rd to cut unless you have access to a really big bandsaw.


big-vee-twin - 23/9/09 at 07:14 PM

There's some long rivets here link also some PU glue/sealantlink

[Edited on 23/9/09 by big-vee-twin]


cd.thomson - 23/9/09 at 07:41 PM

bear in mind his dad has bought him the panels for his birthday so its all free and that few of us would begrudge a passenger in excess of 20kgs I don't think its a big deal.


tomprescott - 23/9/09 at 07:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
bear in mind his dad has bought him the panels for his birthday so its all free and that few of us would begrudge a passenger in excess of 20kgs I don't think its a big deal.


Exactly, and more to the point its here now! I'm not gonna spend more money for the sake of 20kg, I am using a pinto after all so weight loss is not a huge issue to me!


omega0684 - 23/9/09 at 08:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tomprescott
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
bear in mind his dad has bought him the panels for his birthday so its all free and that few of us would begrudge a passenger in excess of 20kgs I don't think its a big deal.


Exactly, and more to the point its here now! I'm not gonna spend more money for the sake of 20kg, I am using a pinto after all so weight loss is not a huge issue to me!


i would order new panels 1.5mm thick ali and use the 5mm ali to make all the brackets you will ever need for the car


Madinventions - 23/9/09 at 09:40 PM

Use 5mm diameter blind rivets for the floor and PU adhesive (Tiger Seal, Wurth etc etc). Blind rivets will stop any water getting into your chassis tubes.

Ed.


MikeR - 23/9/09 at 10:23 PM

you'll need to be careful that the tread will hold the ali off the chassis rails.

Not sure if filling the gap with silkaflex type stuff will be a good idea of not - worried about how it will grip over the distance.

If you decide to grind the tread off for where the floor meets the chassis rails make sure you use a NEW grinding disk designed for the job. Using old disks or steel disks can have explosive side effects.


Peteff - 23/9/09 at 10:34 PM

You'd have to park in a pond to get water in your chassis tubes. Blind rivet is just another name for pop rivets meaning they can be applied to a panel with the other side obscured (blind). The mandrel head stays in the rivet body when the stem breaks.
Gesipa info


flak monkey - 24/9/09 at 05:59 AM

These are what you want

http://www.prifast.co.uk/rivets%20sealed.htm

And have a word with these guys
:

http://www.rivco.co.uk/rivets.html

David