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£4K for a chassis? Really?
Nickp - 8/11/14 at 06:08 PM

FFS, it hasn't even got a log book??

Caterham CSR Road / Race Chassis - New Long Front, Side Panels - Kit Car/Project


coozer - 8/11/14 at 06:25 PM

Well, if its been on the road before as the description says it is registered.

It should have a chassis number to get a v5 otherwise its a ringer!


CosKev3 - 8/11/14 at 07:11 PM

Says no logbook,but you can apply for it if you want to use on the road,so is still registered


coozer - 8/11/14 at 07:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CosKev3
Says no logbook,but you can apply for it if you want to use on the road,so is still registered


That's what I meant, as long as the chassis number is present!


SCAR - 8/11/14 at 07:31 PM

Could be an insurance cat A or cat B total loss hence withdrawn v5. If so it can't go back on the road


Nickp - 8/11/14 at 07:39 PM

Either way it's still £4K for a chassis, which was my point


scootz - 8/11/14 at 07:53 PM

If it checks out ok and can be put in the road with its original registration, then a bid of near £4k isn't all that daft. You're looking at the bones of a £40k car.


eddie99 - 8/11/14 at 08:04 PM

Try going to caterham to buy a CSR chassis. It'll be more! Bear in mind its not mild steel, neither MIG'd


sam919 - 8/11/14 at 08:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Nickp
Either way it's still £4K for a chassis, which was my point


Welcome to kudos, branding and provenance.....


scootz - 8/11/14 at 08:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by eddie99
Try going to caterham to buy a CSR chassis. It'll be more!


If they will sell you one at all. They don't offer the CSR in component form... factory build only.


Nickp - 8/11/14 at 10:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by scootz
If it checks out ok and can be put in the road with its original registration, then a bid of near £4k isn't all that daft. You're looking at the bones of a £40k car.


Holy cr@p, still looks like a few welded tubes to the untrained eye


bi22le - 9/11/14 at 01:28 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Nickp
quote:
Originally posted by scootz
If it checks out ok and can be put in the road with its original registration, then a bid of near £4k isn't all that daft. You're looking at the bones of a £40k car.


Holy cr@p, still looks like a few welded tubes to the untrained eye


my eye is pretty untrained but I can see features and design traits in that chassis that I have not seem out side of Caterham.

If you have 20k target spend for a track monster I would rather have that chassis than an mk.


Doctor Derek Doctors - 9/11/14 at 01:15 PM

I'm sure Multimatic sorted the dynamics and suspension on the CSR and Caged made the chassis using a CNC tube tool. That's some pretty tasty origins, If you want to build a Seven, you won't find a much better chassis to start with.


sam919 - 9/11/14 at 03:32 PM

There is debate about the csr chassis and being welded rather than brazed and the differences in rigidity between the two methods. Certainly the csr chassis has proven well on the track but with 260 BHP, a well sorted 200bhp s3 would and can keep up. Road wise the s3 is too small, it's good....very good but with a passenger it's tight, CSR/ SV is a better option. 4k, 3.5 might clinch it......then again a westy standard chassis is wider than an S3 if dough is a issue


eddie99 - 9/11/14 at 04:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by sam919
Certainly the csr chassis has proven well on the track but with 260 BHP, a well sorted 200bhp s3 would and can keep up.


Im afraid you need to go to a CSCC Mag 7 meet if you think thats the case.


sam919 - 9/11/14 at 05:30 PM

I've raced in the mag 7's on and off since the beginning, what's your comment in refference to? Csr vs s3


eddie99 - 9/11/14 at 05:33 PM

Maybe I'm wrong but i haven't seen a 200bhp S3 beat a 260bhp CSR Chassis regularly


[Edited on 9/11/14 by eddie99]


sam919 - 9/11/14 at 05:36 PM

Who mentioned SV with 200bhp?


eddie99 - 9/11/14 at 05:41 PM

Sorry meant s3, typo.


sam919 - 9/11/14 at 06:38 PM

I was referring to standard spec cars with out of the box power relevant to model, and not putting them into an unlimited race series or any race series at all.

we cant compare anything in the mag 7's really,most of the front running machinery isn't what it says it is due to engine tuning and how much each owner says it has.Closer to home my r and latterly c400 both standard 200 ish was a good match for two ex eurocup CSR cars at croft and knockhill, with comparable lap times.

The S3 in a race situation does tend to be favoured, lighter , more nimble , above chassis manufacture differences.....stick 2.3 duratecs in them with 290-300 and there's not much in it, whether the CSR can put down this power better than an s3 due to wider track at the rear is another matter my S3 I don't think used the 300 it had very well 260 seemed to be the sweet spot.


daniel mason - 9/11/14 at 06:58 PM

The sprinters/hillclimbers nearly all use s3 chassis. And the top top boys like Darren Luke run tuned busas. Absolutely rapid on the hills and pretty much outpace anything outsized of 5a race cars and above!


sam919 - 9/11/14 at 07:37 PM

Interesting, I wonder how long before the busa is outed? Great tuning potential but heavy with it, does anyone use the CBR 1000?


daniel mason - 9/11/14 at 09:35 PM

Tim nunn, terry everall and mark anson do in westfields. Terry's weighs 405kgs and they are all absolutely rapid sprinters!
Terry's I think is an ex bsb 1000rr and is a proper screamer!
The hillclimbers in <1100cc race cars like mine nearly all use gsxr 1000's as they have a bit more grunt than the others


daniel mason - 9/11/14 at 09:39 PM

All them westy above were lapping blyton and Anglesey around the same times I did In the radical. They were all a lot lighter than mine though and were on fresh tyres compared to my 4 season old set
Think I just pipped them at blyton but think terry beat me on Anglesey international!


sam919 - 10/11/14 at 07:32 AM

Nice, i knew Terry had a CBR in his that AB had breathed on to HRC spec, their pretty much on the money already i think HRC spec gets you another 20bhp :-O

I really need to get on with this car, ill start before xmas with a cradle etc but might struggle for the start of next season, we've got another duratec caterham we're building from scratch and this so its tight. Just wondering how we'll get it off the trolley :-)




[Edited on 10/11/14 by sam919]


snakebelly - 10/11/14 at 08:27 PM

Asked the question and it definitely has a chassis plate fitted....waiting for a chassis number to be stamped on it! So if its been on the road I'm guessing the chassis number is being sported by another Caterham...grrrr, at around £3500 with a log book I think it would have been a good buy but as it is its a trackday only car