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beginner welding question...
lowgman - 27/3/06 at 07:26 PM

Hi everyone,

I finally decided to build a locost recently and just started to cut and weld up my book sized chassis. I have a few questions about welding up the chassis.

I've done some welding a few years ago, just exhaust piping with a mig welder. This would be the first time I would be doing such a large welding project.

I picked up a Miller Challenger 172 MIG welder, which works great, but I have a few questions:

1. I did quite a few practice welds on scrap box section for a few days before beginning on the frame. I came up to the conclusion that upping the power level and slowing down the wire helped penetration, as did the swith to a thinner wire. However, I managed to blow a few holes on the chassis bottom rails. One of them was rather large (maybe 5-6mm). What would be the largest hole I can fill with a mig weld?

2. After my last welding session, I went to shut off my welder and noticed that the gas gauge showed the tank was empty! I have no idea how long I've been welding without gas, but I did notice that there was a tiny bit more splatter than usual (I thought I was just getting sloppy
) Should I be worried and cut those welds out and lay on a new bead? Other than the splatter, the base weld (for a lack of a better term) looks just as good as the first few welds where I knew the gas was on.

3. There was also a slight warpage to the chassis after I was done with the welding. I would say that the front end has about 1mm of warpage (enough to slide 2-3 sheets of copy paper under the front) Should I be concerned about this?

4. For the T joints and L joints in the frame rails. Should I be laying down more than one bead?

I will try to post up some pics later on this week.

Thanks in advance!


JoelP - 27/3/06 at 07:32 PM

the weld would probably be visibly porus (damned spelling...!) if there was no gas at all. A mm of warpage is better than most id guess, i had more like 10mm on my first one (fortunately scrapped now!). You can fill very large holes if required, but its not great. You end up with a hot blob in the end, which might weaken the overall weld. I wouldnt worry myself, as im sure that practice will make it a rare thing.

As for point 4, i dont get ya


kb58 - 27/3/06 at 07:42 PM

My guess is the tank wasn't *really* empty yet. I ran out of gas completely one time TIG welding and brother, you'll know it when it happens. Smoke, sparks, and welds that look like a sponge are all symptoms of no gas.


lowgman - 27/3/06 at 07:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JoelP
As for point 4, i dont get ya


Thanks JoelP!

Sorry, my welding terms aren't up to par yet

THis is what i meant:



Should I "layer" the welds on these type of joints?


welderman - 27/3/06 at 08:12 PM

A single fillet weld should you mate, your not welding thick stuff so should be ok. Just don't grind the welds flush to make them look good.


antonyg - 27/3/06 at 08:48 PM

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Antony