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Ajustable pedal box
CraigJ - 2/4/07 at 03:25 PM

What is the best way to make a pedal box adjustable? Can i use braided flexy lines from the master cylinders?

Ive read some where you can use flexy brake lines throughout the car is this right and has anyone done it?

Thanks Craig.


chrisg - 2/4/07 at 03:31 PM

I think that Ultima use all braided hose on their cars.

The adjustable boxes I've seen use braided hoses to the master cylinder.

Cheers

Chris


miegru - 2/4/07 at 03:32 PM

I've done it. Used braided hoses for the complete front section. Ultima do it also.

Is ok; however you should use braided hose with markings (identifying the make and type of the hose used, usually this also has the silicon covering over the braiding). Another condition is that the connection have to be pressed. The DIY screw-fixings are not allowed as they cannot be guaranteed.


CraigJ - 2/4/07 at 03:38 PM

Cheers guys so if i use solid lines with braided ends going to the master cylinder it will be ok? Will this be fine for SVA?


CraigJ - 2/4/07 at 03:40 PM

Also what is the best way to mount the pedal box so it can be moved back and forward? They obviously need to be locked in place to prevent moving whilst driving.


02GF74 - 2/4/07 at 04:10 PM

is it not easier to make the seat adjustable?


nitram38 - 2/4/07 at 04:40 PM

The Arial Atom has braided brake pipes throughout.


CraigJ - 2/4/07 at 04:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by 02GF74
is it not easier to make the seat adjustable?



Its erm not really having any seats lol. more like shaped ali with sparco pads on it.


Angel Acevedo - 2/4/07 at 05:26 PM

Full lenght hose instead of pipe may lead to spongy pedal feel IMHO.


Alan B - 2/4/07 at 05:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by nitram38
The Arial Atom has braided brake pipes throughout.


While I have a lot of respect and admiration for Ariel and Ultima, I do not think flexi pipes used throughout is good engineering. IMO you should used solid piping as much as possible and flexis just where needed.

Again, stressing IMO.


miegru - 2/4/07 at 05:48 PM

Mine passed SVA; but use the pressed fittings and marked hoses. The SVA inspector did look up the brand and pressurerating for the hosetype.

If you go for braided ones I would go for full lenghts. Why use full copper ones in the middle; more connections means more chances of failure.

With regards to the spongy feel; the braided one have equal to less elasticy than the normal fixed lines. Believe me; you will not notice; My front end has AP calipers (the westfield set-up) and only braided hoses. I have two cm of pedaltravel to set the pressure and after that the pedal is rock solid. Everybody who has used my car has commented on the feel of the brakes. Absolutely no spongy feeling.

Is also easier to create a neat looking solution but that might be because of my skills. I will use only braided hose in my next build.


designer - 2/4/07 at 07:11 PM

Long runs of any fluid carrying tube should be solid.


Peteff - 2/4/07 at 07:29 PM

They don't cause problems on production cars, why should they fail if done properly.

the braided one have equal to less elasticity than the normal fixed lines.
Watch a hydraulic line try to straighten itself under pressure and you won't think so. They don't only use steel because it's cheaper.