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longer and wider Chassis
ledeco - 8/9/03 at 03:46 AM

What tubes do you increase in length when making the longer and wider chassis? and what length do you increass them by I think I heard 100mm


James - 8/9/03 at 08:54 AM

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Originally posted by ledeco
What tubes do you increase in length when making the longer and wider chassis? and what length do you increass them by I think I heard 100mm


It's completely up to you mate. Which part of the chassis do you want bigger? Are you trying to fit a physically large engine or wider track running gear?

James


stephen_gusterson - 8/9/03 at 09:29 AM

before you make anything bigger, give it more consideration.

If you have a big engine, thats a reason. If you are a big person, another good reason.

The style of these cars is that they are a 'compact racer for the road'. If you see a cater ham at a show, they look well proportioned, as against something like a robin hood 2b or the big luego.

Enlarging the car too much can often result in something that looks a bit 'lardy' and wrong.

My car which isnt a locst but is based on one, runs about 3 ins higher, is six ins wider, and about a foot longer and it looks MASSIVE compared to a 'book' car, but its only inches here or there.


Deviating from book dimensions also adds lots of other time sonsuming problems, like using unstandard wishbones, cant get nosecones, cant get wheel arches, etc.

atb

steve


thekafer - 10/9/03 at 04:38 AM

I downloaded and printed a 4" wider chassis drawing along with individual detail parts drawings from Jim McSorleys' web site.(sorry I dont have the proper web address) It fills a 2" binder and made fabbing the tubes much easier.

Very well done drawing & modeling downloads..

good luck! Fletch


Browser - 11/9/03 at 08:24 AM

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Enlarging the car too much can often result in something that looks a bit 'lardy' and wrong.



SO are you a bit 'lardy' then Steve, hence the enlarged car?


ledeco - 12/9/03 at 12:25 PM

Ok looks like the standard chassis is a winner then!!! TIME to start cutting and welding..................


stephen_gusterson - 12/9/03 at 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by Browser
quote:

Enlarging the car too much can often result in something that looks a bit 'lardy' and wrong.



SO are you a bit 'lardy' then Steve, hence the enlarged car?



I was 3 months back, but im just over 12 stone now!!!!

(but only 4ft 2....)


I just didnt fancy a car that I had to hang my arm out the side.............but if you look at my web site you'll see its pretty different anyway!


Bigfoot - 13/9/03 at 11:00 AM

Ledeco,

Build what you like mate. It's bugger all use if you can't fit in the drivers seat, or get your feet on the pedals.


pbura - 13/9/03 at 12:01 PM

If you have a donor with a smaller track, and can fit in a standard chassis, that's all well and good.

OTOH, if the donor rear track is 58" or better, there's little harm in making a bigger car, especially for the road. The weight penalty for the extra 1" tubes for the +442 chassis is only 10 lbs. The Cateringvan SV weighs 56 lbs. more than a Clubsport, and a good chunk of this must come from the larger axle. I'm guessing that if you're already destined to have a wide track because of your donor, the larger chassis and bodywork adds only about 25-30 lbs. more.

For racing, 50-60 extra pounds would be a killer, but for street use, this is not a big amount. Some of it could be reclaimed by using a lighter engine (my strategy because old rotaries are not expensive in the US), ally floorboards and fuel tank, racing battery, etc.

As far as looks go, many of the wider cars look more aggressive from the front, but a little like J-Lo from the rear. I'm going to try raising the rear deck, and using some other Cateringvan styling tricks, to see if that helps the proportions.

I'll also try not to park near any standard cars (not very likely as I've never seen a 7 of any kind).

Pete


stephen_gusterson - 13/9/03 at 07:19 PM

but then j-lo has a pretty big ass......strange shape too.....not that id complain......

she always reminds me of the old UK comedian max wall....

atb

steve


pbura - 13/9/03 at 07:35 PM

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Originally posted by stephen_gusterson
but then j-lo has a pretty big ass......strange shape too.....not that id complain......

she always reminds me of the old UK comedian max wall....


I was reaching for a simile that conveyed wide, though not necessarily unpleasant

I can't quite see her similarity to Harry Wall, must be a cultural dissonance

“England and America are two countries separated by the Atlantic Ocean” —Eddie Izzard

Pete


stephen_gusterson - 13/9/03 at 07:52 PM

max wall....

He had a funny walk that basically was leaning forward with his ass stuck out at the back.

J-lo's rear is a little on the bulbous side...............

but very nice indeed!

atb

steve


Hugh Paterson - 18/9/03 at 11:58 AM

Steve, looks like the wedding is off too ya never know she might just LIKE you to call
Shug