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Slater - 12/5/09 at 10:57 AM

Any suggestions for making sure my pride and joy does not get pinched when leaving it in public car parks?

I don't have a steering column lock, but do have a hidden switch in the engine bay (fitted for SVA).
It would be easy for someone to roll up with a trailor and release the handbrake, winch it on and away.

I have heard a little about motorbike imobilisers, are they any good and details, hints, tips??????

Any other electronic devices??

What about a big chain through the back wheel and suspension??


blakep82 - 12/5/09 at 10:59 AM

immobiliser won't stop it getting trailered away.

bike alarm and immobiliser maybe though? at least it would make a noise and draw attention to itself


Mr Whippy - 12/5/09 at 11:03 AM

do what I did with the falcon, buy a big 16mm link bike chain, weld a large shackle to the chassis rails front back and chain the car to lampposts and railings. Sorted


tegwin - 12/5/09 at 11:06 AM

Big highly visible chain through the wheel/wishbone would prevent anyone rolling the car away... Just make sure you remove it before you try driving the car!


eznfrank - 12/5/09 at 11:08 AM

Depends what handbrake your using but sometimes you can drill a hole through for a padlock to keep it "on".


DaveFJ - 12/5/09 at 11:17 AM

one of those personal wheel clamps like you use on caravans?

[Edited on 12-5-09 by DaveFJ]


matt_gsxr - 12/5/09 at 11:24 AM

Like tegwin but with a U-lock through the front wheel and around the steering arm. Get one in a bright colour as its mostly a deterent.

You can't do much about a trailer/low loader as the cars are so light (unless you lock it to something, like you have to do with a bicycle).

Matt


whitestu - 12/5/09 at 11:27 AM

What about one of the handrake locks that goes between the handbrake lever and gearstick?


wheelfelloff - 12/5/09 at 11:32 AM

As with all cars really it is just a case of trying to deter the casual thief. If they are determined to get the car then they will somehow or other. With these cars you also have to think about how much room your security takes up so not sure about wheel clamps.
For many years I have used the "secret switch" immobiliser coupled with one of those small krook lock things that goes between handbrake (firmly on) and gear stick (first gear). At least if they want to move it the handbrake is on and it is locked in first gear. The lock is small and lives just in front of the passenger seat without problem. Worked OK for me for the last four years.

Regards Keith


bitsilly - 12/5/09 at 11:36 AM

If the thieves have a winch they can drag anything on to the trailer so you'll need a cordless drill and ground anchor everywhere you go.
Or a motion/tilt alarm.

I would think that if someone sets out to nick any car, especially one they can drag onto a transporter they will manage it, my criteria has always been to just make other cars look less of a risk/pain in the arse to steal.
So a little flashing LED and a 'car data tagged' does it for me.
Next step, is if they get in and try and nick it anyway, and have basic skills in wiring a car, then a hidden kill switch may help as long as they don't figure which circuit is killed and they have a length of wire.
Couldn't you just get the wife/dog/kids to stay in the car (designated driver advantage there too)!


bitsilly - 12/5/09 at 11:37 AM

Must type quicker!!


pewe - 12/5/09 at 11:37 AM

What whitestu says ^ I bought one from Autolok on fleabay for £20, their A01SE fits mine. Acts as a visual deterrent and stops it from being pushed around the corner.
Two large spring tool clips for local tool store with some cable covering mounted behind the seats means it's stored readily to hand whenever I park up.
Cheers, Pewe


dan__wright - 12/5/09 at 11:38 AM

ive got a big chain that i will put though wheel / wishbone if i leave it anywhere.

im planning to make a way to padlock the handbrake on and may end up going with an electronic gear change mounted on a removable wheel so in gear, take the wheel and gear change with me and obscure the gear change in the engine bay


David Jenkins - 12/5/09 at 11:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by whitestu
What about one of the handrake locks that goes between the handbrake lever and gearstick?


That's what I've got - not much use against a determined thief, but good enough to stop someone reaching in and letting off the handbrake.

When it's fitted, the villain can't release the handbrake, it's fixed in 1st or reverse, and there's the steering lock as an added bonus. Each can be beaten, but not without tools of some sort.


Jasper - 12/5/09 at 12:09 PM

I bought a small cheap Thatcham immobiliser off Ebay, works on two circuits, almost impossible to bypass without plenty of time. As others have said, if they really want it they'll take it.


designer - 12/5/09 at 12:18 PM

Get a keyed hydraulic lock for the rear wheels would be a start.

Seat pressure sensor, or sensor under dash pointing towards pedal another idea.


Xtreme Kermit - 12/5/09 at 12:18 PM

I've found that a removable steering wheel helps as a bit of a deterrant.


tegwin - 12/5/09 at 12:27 PM

As others have said.. if the theif is determined... they will succeeed... my sister had her trick defender 90 pinched from outside her house whilst she slept....

The police reconed they came along with a low loader and dragged the car (in gear and with brake on) straight onto the lorry... we never saw it again... althjough some parts ended up on ebay!


Mr Whippy - 12/5/09 at 01:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by tegwin
As others have said.. if the theif is determined... they will succeeed... my sister had her trick defender 90 pinched from outside her house whilst she slept....

The police reconed they came along with a low loader and dragged the car (in gear and with brake on) straight onto the lorry... we never saw it again... althjough some parts ended up on ebay!


Even then, a motion sensor alarm should have picked that up. It’s a car, fit the biggest damn ear blasting siren you can get your hands on, what’s 4 or more 180db horns to a car.

Its up to you how much you spend on it but I see 100 watt sirens for less than £100 and if the alarms so loud its intolerable or painful to even be next too, no ones going to touch it. Put a siren in the cabin blasting at their face behind the dash through a speaker grill so they can't get to it or turn it off, that is absolutely ear piercing. Their thieving scum so hurt them bad


BenB - 12/5/09 at 02:39 PM

Removable steering wheel does it for me. I'm usually more worried about some tw@t setting off my fire extinguisher or tyre sealant cannister. I really must get a lockable box to stop that.... but I like the idea of a big FO chain between the wheels and wishbones....


caber - 12/5/09 at 08:52 PM

I like this solution linky

Caber


iank - 12/5/09 at 08:59 PM

or one of these http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tcfm-lKoKIs


Ninehigh - 13/5/09 at 10:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
Their thieving scum so hurt them bad


Run the positive terminal of the battery to the handbrake, then the negative terminal to the steering wheel and a few other places where said scum would touch.

Oh and I never said it, nor did you actually do it officer