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mad4x4 - 27/8/09 at 07:47 AM

Can your run Long term with a welded DIFF on the Road

Simply becasue cost of LSD's or other options are getting to be NON LOCOST


flak monkey - 27/8/09 at 07:50 AM

I wouldnt, you'll scrub tyres and handling will be awful. Unless you like going sideways all the time.

They are great in drift cars or offroading, useless on tarmac

You should be able to pick up a 3.62 LSD for about £100.


MikeRJ - 27/8/09 at 07:51 AM

Very silly idea for road use.


deezee - 27/8/09 at 07:52 AM

Unless you don't intend to take corners on a day to day basis, I'd avoid it. After all, your removing the ability for the wheels to turn a different speeds. So they'll hop, skip and snatch all the time.


adithorp - 27/8/09 at 07:53 AM

It'd be very short-term on the road and then, if you're lucky, backwards into a field. If your unlucky you'll end up in court.

adrian


Mr Whippy - 27/8/09 at 07:57 AM

don't do it, car will handle very bad and wear your tyres to nothing


contaminated - 27/8/09 at 08:34 AM

2 LSDs for sale on the Tiger Owners website.


contaminated - 27/8/09 at 08:35 AM

Oh, and on here I see!


mookaloid - 27/8/09 at 08:45 AM

I wouldn't do it for 100 yards on a road never mind long term.

You'll understeer straight off the road


daviep - 27/8/09 at 09:31 AM

How many people who have commented have driven a car with a solid axle?

Have a look at lap times for Global GT Lights. They are single seaters powered by an R1 and look similar to Radicals. They run IRS with a solid chain driven axle and they handle superbly.

Davie

[Edited on 27/8/09 by daviep]


Mr Whippy - 27/8/09 at 10:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by daviep
How many people who have commented have driven a car with a solid axle?

Have a look at lap times for Global GT Lights. They are single seaters powered by an R1 and look similar to Radicals. They run IRS with a solid chain driven axle and they handle superbly.

Davie




Saying that I was going to buy a 6 wheeled troop carrier a while back but after speaking to the owner about its total lack of diff’s and how it coped on the road without them. I was told if he didn’t drive it half on the grass embankment the tyres would be smoking after a few miles…needless to say that put a dampener on that idea I’ve also had landys that I’ve used with the diff lock on and unless it’s been raining and the roads are greasy you really notice how much the half shafts wind up, what you actually get is a constant snatching from the slipping wheels causing the car to shudder.


Aico - 27/8/09 at 11:28 AM

You can definatly drive with it long term. You just get understeer at low speeds. If a used working LSD is only 100-300Pounds then it's already worth the buy. Understeer is no fun.


MikeRJ - 27/8/09 at 11:53 AM

quote:
Originally posted by daviep
How many people who have commented have driven a car with a solid axle?

Have a look at lap times for Global GT Lights. They are single seaters powered by an R1 and look similar to Radicals. They run IRS with a solid chain driven axle and they handle superbly.



How many of these get driven on the road for long distances?


mad4x4 - 27/8/09 at 12:06 PM

Good to see some healthy debate on this subject. I know some of the 4x4 boys use welded rear diffs as well but mainly offroad. It was the longer term I was looking at and intrested to see if any people do actually run solid axles? becasue you do hear talk about them...

On the same point most CART's run solid axles but again not on the road.


Is there anything legal that says you must have a "open" diff on the road?


mad4x4 - 27/8/09 at 12:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mr Whippy
quote:
Originally posted by daviep
How many people who have commented have driven a car with a solid axle?

Have a look at lap times for Global GT Lights. They are single seaters powered by an R1 and look similar to Radicals. They run IRS with a solid chain driven axle and they handle superbly.

Davie




Saying that I was going to buy a 6 wheeled troop carrier a while back but after speaking to the owner about its total lack of diff’s and how it coped on the road without them. I was told if he didn’t drive it half on the grass embankment the tyres would be smoking after a few miles…needless to say that put a dampener on that idea I’ve also had landys that I’ve used with the diff lock on and unless it’s been raining and the roads are greasy you really notice how much the half shafts wind up, what you actually get is a constant snatching from the slipping wheels causing the car to shudder.


The driving on grass bit is due to the meshing between the axles due to central diffs to let one axle turn faster than the other. Usually called transmission wind up.......and NOTHING to do with the "Left/Right" of each wheel. You have the same problem in a old landrover with the 4x4 locked in......


Mr Whippy - 27/8/09 at 02:05 PM

aparently the 6 wheeled Stalwart has no diffs anywhere bit of a sod as the tyres are very expensive


mangogrooveworkshop - 27/8/09 at 02:46 PM

Quads are very unstable with solid axles so a bigger version would be just as bad.


Canada EH! - 27/8/09 at 02:53 PM

I ran welded diffs in both and Anglia and 1200 Datsun race cars, both worked well on race tracks, couldn't push and turn the damn things in the pits, hell in the rain.


andkilde - 27/8/09 at 10:11 PM

quote:


On the same point most CART's run solid axles but again not on the road.


Is there anything legal that says you must have a "open" diff on the road?



Kart's use "caster jacking" to prop themselves onto three wheels in order to corner effectively -- this doesn't really work on a suspended car as the springs and shocks work to keep all four on the ground at any given time.

I doubt there would be any specific legislation forbidding locked diffs on the road, but your local bobby would surely nick you for hooning about sideways everywhere you go, they might even pull you over just for making squealy tyre noises as you'd be likely to do at slow speeds.

My friends who rally use welded diffs on occasion -- they're apparently quite a handful on tarmac and it's quite common to snap a halfshaft at parking lot speeds.


Cheers, Ted


02GF74 - 28/8/09 at 07:15 PM

may work