Ford Type 2 gearbox problem
steve m - 29/10/12 at 09:53 PM
My Ford type 2 gearbox has a slight problem going from 2 to 3 on hard acceleration
mild aceleration is fine, but if im flooring the little xflow, i sometimes have to double clutch to get it into 3rd
Coming back down the box seems fine
Any ideas's?
Steve
Paul Turner - 30/10/12 at 07:53 AM
Would think its probably the baulk ring, blocker bar or possibly just general wear issues, a rebuild looks to be on the cards.
Ran these boxes for years, even with an 1860 175 bhp x-flow never had an issue with a properly fettled box, way better than a type 9 on a x-flow,
don't be tempted to change.
Dick Axtell - 30/10/12 at 09:21 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Turner
Ran these boxes for years, even with an 1860 175 bhp x-flow; never had an issue with a properly fettled box, way better than a type 9 on a x-flow,
don't be tempted to change.
That's useful recommendation - thanks for the info.
dave r - 30/10/12 at 01:20 PM
if you are looking for a spare, i think there is one in my garage
britishtrident - 30/10/12 at 01:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Paul Turner
Would think its probably the baulk ring, blocker bar or possibly just general wear issues, a rebuild looks to be on the cards.
Ran these boxes for years, even with an 1860 175 bhp x-flow never had an issue with a properly fettled box, way better than a type 9 on a x-flow,
don't be tempted to change.
Are you sure it was a type 2 Esscort box and not the very similar looking Mk3 & Mk4 Cortina 1300 and 1600 box which also had similar
integral case & bellhousing?
The original type 2 box in the Mk1 escort could barely take the power of the 1300 xflo, Ford upgraded it a bit for the mk2 because the Mk2 had
1600 xflo and 1600 Pinto versions.
Paul Turner - 30/10/12 at 02:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by britishtrident
Are you sure it was a type 2 Esscort box and not the very similar looking Mk3 & Mk4 Cortina 1300 and 1600 box which also had similar
integral case & bellhousing?
The original type 2 box in the Mk1 escort could barely take the power of the 1300 xflo, Ford upgraded it a bit for the mk2 because the Mk2 had
1600 xflo and 1600 Pinto versions.
Absolutely 100% certain it was a Type 2 box. Yes they were not exactly the strongest box in the world but in a lightweight car like a 7 they can take
a lot more power than they can in the much heavier Escort. Ford did not upgrade the internals between the Mk1 and mk 2 Escorts, they are identical.
The so called "Heavy duty" version from the 1600 sport was exactly the same as far as bearings and syncros went but had a one piece alloy
tailcase. All the "sport" versions (1300 and 1600 - only the 1600 had the 1 piece tail casing) had slightly closer ratios, rocking horse poo
now, not exactly common 23 years ago. The standard box was sold to a racing aquaintance as a spare. I then ran a Quaiffe version of the box when I
took to the hills and circuits more seriously and that was the best box I have ever had. It was built in the standard box without the one piece tail
case (could not locate a cheap 1600 doner box) and in 5 years of competition all I replaced was a front bearing as a precaution. When I moved onto big
slicks I decided I had better upgrade and fitted a quaiffe Type E box with an experiemental alloy casing, that was a nice box as well. Sold the Type 2
quaiffe Box to a mate , he ran it for several years before selling the car.
The Mk 2 Mexico used a Type E box not the Type 2 as did the Mk1 and Mk RS2000.
steve m - 30/10/12 at 04:17 PM
Mine, i am 99% sure its a type 2, as from a 1300 mk2 escort 1979 vintage
ernie - 30/10/12 at 05:43 PM
David Bartholomew, ex Locost race champ, rebuilds these gearboxes. You should find him on here somewhere.
Or u2 me if required