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001Ben

posted on 19/8/09 at 12:24 PM Reply With Quote
Full Rollcage Weld or Bolt

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I will be making some changes to the car over the winter, one of the changes will be to fit a full rollbar cage as I want a little bit more protection. Now do I have go for a fully welded in cage or bolt in. The easier way would be a bolt in method but what are the advantages /disadvantages to both? Can anyone on here recommend a company or anyone on here who will be able to make one?

I will be using the car mainly for road use but at some point I will be venturing to the track with it. Pics would also be very helpful
Thanks
Ben

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Richard Quinn

posted on 19/8/09 at 12:49 PM Reply With Quote
Wuss! Get some skateboard pads and you'll be ok. You'll need a bigger engine if you add more weight.
Some cages are much better than others. U2U Matt (Procomp) and he'll point you in the right direction.

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001Ben

posted on 19/8/09 at 02:01 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Richard Quinn
Wuss!


Get back to work Mr Quinn!

I will U2U Matt later to see what his thoughts are. How are your fibreglass seats? where did you buy them from?

[Edited on 19/8/09 by 001Ben]

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Richard Quinn

posted on 19/8/09 at 02:54 PM Reply With Quote
Well, seeing as you've now hijacked your own thread...
Seats are from JK Composites in Southport. They're fine if you don't carry any fat *rsed passengers.

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dhutch

posted on 19/8/09 at 08:01 PM Reply With Quote
I think matt would push you in the direction of the weld-in cage, which im not saying is wrong. However theres no reason that with the right mounting points and a bit of engineering a bolt-in cage/roll bar should be just as strong/roubust in the event of its being used and in the intervening years a bolt-in cage is more flexable for being removed for work or being resold.

Who knows, how long is a piece of string? Procomp will certainly do a nice job of anything you take them, but i personally am very happy with my bolt-in rollbar (all be it not a full cage)

Daniel

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spic

posted on 20/8/09 at 09:39 PM Reply With Quote
I have a full cage on my Cat and its bolted on its very strong, made by Caged in frome....I like the race look and i feel alot safer driving it. Heres a couple of pics...
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/spicster1974/Photo004.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/spicster1974/d_NQ8S6265.jpg

Hope this helps

Steve

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Richard Quinn

posted on 21/8/09 at 12:43 PM Reply With Quote
quote:
Originally posted by spic
I have a full cage on my Cat and its bolted on its very strong, made by Caged in frome....I like the race look and i feel alot safer driving it. Heres a couple of pics...
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/spicster1974/Photo004.jpg

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee119/spicster1974/d_NQ8S6265.jpg

Hope this helps

Steve
Steve,
I can see that the front mounts to the top and bottom chassis rails (or thereabouts). Does it bolt through the chassis rails with crush tubes or are there brackets attached? The main thing putting me off going the full cage route is the thought of having to take the car back apart now to work on the chassis.

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spic

posted on 22/8/09 at 05:10 PM Reply With Quote
Drilled the holes and bolted through the chassis useing large bolts.
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001Ben

posted on 31/8/09 at 06:01 PM Reply With Quote
thanks for the pics Steve, they help alot. I was looking at bolting mine through the floor originally in tghe cockpit but have read a few threads that suggested that they are safer on the outside like your is
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MikeRJ

posted on 31/8/09 at 08:32 PM Reply With Quote
A cage bolted through a locost floor will be useless in the event of a roll, especially if you have an alloy floor.
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MikeR

posted on 31/8/09 at 09:44 PM Reply With Quote
most people weld a 3mm plate to the chassis for the roll cage to fit too.

I've just welded in 4 3mm plates either side of the car so the front roll hoop can bolt into the side of the car.

(two at the top rail, two at the bottom).

Each drilled with a 10mm hole.

Hopefully that will suffice.

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