tomprescott
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 05:42 PM |
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Alu panels
Just took delivery of my aluminium for the flooring and seat backs. I've got 5mm 5bar tread for the floor panels and I intend to seal and
rivet them to the chassis rails.
Is silkaflex the best option, or would wunderseal (ala cbs) be suitable? If silkaflex (spelling?) is the ideal wheres the best place to get it?
Cheers,
Tom
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 05:45 PM |
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hi tom, i believe people use wunderseal/tiger seal/wurth and sikaflex interchangably.
Im only knowledgable here because i just bought some today 
two tubes off ebay cost £11.60 which seemed reasonable. you can possibly get it cheaper from a good motorfactors or building trade specialist.
Craig
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Flamez
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 05:46 PM |
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I used "Wurth" adhesive and large head 4.2 rivets 3" apart.
[Edited on 23-9-09 by Flamez]
my build mac1motorsports
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tomprescott
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 05:49 PM |
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Cool, cheers. I take it that the sealent is also used to bung the centers of the rivets?
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jacko
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 06:02 PM |
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5mm thick
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tomprescott
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 06:12 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jacko
5mm thick
Que?
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speedyxjs
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 06:16 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by jacko
5mm thick
Thats what i was thinking. I think most use 2mm ali (although i used 2mm steel as i had loads left)
How long can i resist the temptation to drop a V8 in?
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tomprescott
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 06:17 PM |
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Think it was quite expensive, but not sure, my dad ordered it for me as most of my 21st present. Lucky me!
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flak monkey
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 06:19 PM |
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Bugger 5mm ali!
That'll weigh more than the 1.6mm steel floor!
Mines 2mm plain ali.
Rivet on with sealed end rivets every 50mm max (most decent fasteners places can supply them) and seal with PU adhesive. It'll never come off
again, lol.
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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tomprescott
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 06:23 PM |
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Its not gonna make a huge difference to weight and will give a nice solid floor!
Cheers for the advice guys, I'll get a tub of something suitable and some rivets tomorrow!
[Edited on 23/9/09 by tomprescott]
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jacko
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 06:35 PM |
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At work we use 5mm alloy tread plate and i takes 2 people to lift it
2mm only takes 1 hand
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Confused but excited.
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 06:47 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by speedyxjs
quote:
Originally posted by jacko
5mm thick
Thats what i was thinking. I think most use 2mm ali (although i used 2mm steel as i had loads left)
Christ! The world's first sports tank.
Can't wait to see the vid, sounds like it will be awesome.
Tell them about the bent treacle edges!
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iank
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 07:02 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tomprescott
Its not gonna make a huge difference to weight and will give a nice solid floor!
Cheers for the advice guys, I'll get a tub of something suitable and some rivets tomorrow!
[Edited on 23/9/09 by tomprescott]
You're adding approx 20kg to the weight of the car by using 5mm over 2mm.
Rivets will be rather longer than normal, it's probably worth doing some research on their strength.
It will also be a complete b*st*rd to cut unless you have access to a really big bandsaw.
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Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
Anonymous
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big-vee-twin
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 07:14 PM |
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There's some long rivets here link
also some PU glue/sealantlink
[Edited on 23/9/09 by big-vee-twin]
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http://www.triangleltd.com
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cd.thomson
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 07:41 PM |
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bear in mind his dad has bought him the panels for his birthday so its all free and that few of us would begrudge a passenger in excess of 20kgs I
don't think its a big deal.
Craig
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tomprescott
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 07:52 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
bear in mind his dad has bought him the panels for his birthday so its all free and that few of us would begrudge a passenger in excess of 20kgs I
don't think its a big deal.
Exactly, and more to the point its here now! I'm not gonna spend more money for the sake of 20kg, I am using a pinto after all so weight loss is
not a huge issue to me!
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omega0684
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 08:39 PM |
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quote:
Originally posted by tomprescott
quote:
Originally posted by cd.thomson
bear in mind his dad has bought him the panels for his birthday so its all free and that few of us would begrudge a passenger in excess of 20kgs I
don't think its a big deal.
Exactly, and more to the point its here now! I'm not gonna spend more money for the sake of 20kg, I am using a pinto after all so weight loss is
not a huge issue to me!
i would order new panels 1.5mm thick ali and use the 5mm ali to make all the brackets you will ever need for the car
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Madinventions
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 09:40 PM |
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Use 5mm diameter blind rivets for the floor and PU adhesive (Tiger Seal, Wurth etc etc). Blind rivets will stop any water getting into your chassis
tubes.
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MikeR
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 10:23 PM |
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you'll need to be careful that the tread will hold the ali off the chassis rails.
Not sure if filling the gap with silkaflex type stuff will be a good idea of not - worried about how it will grip over the distance.
If you decide to grind the tread off for where the floor meets the chassis rails make sure you use a NEW grinding disk designed for the job. Using old
disks or steel disks can have explosive side effects.
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Peteff
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| posted on 23/9/09 at 10:34 PM |
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You'd have to park in a pond to get water in your chassis tubes. Blind rivet is just another name for pop rivets meaning they can be applied to
a panel with the other side obscured (blind). The mandrel head stays in the rivet body when the stem breaks.
Gesipa info
yours, Pete
I went into the RSPCA office the other day. It was so small you could hardly swing a cat in there.
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flak monkey
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| posted on 24/9/09 at 05:59 AM |
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These are what you want
http://www.prifast.co.uk/rivets%20sealed.htm
And have a word with these guys
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http://www.rivco.co.uk/rivets.html
David
Sera
http://www.motosera.com
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